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Old 01-11-2008, 09:22 AM     Post subject: AKo 6 max 10nl #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 57/57 over 7 hands lol . . this standard yeah. I don't play much no-limit ring but really want to improve at it. Do you give him any respect for a hand or as his stats suggest mean an easy call?

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Button ($2.05)
Hero ($9.65)
BB ($0.90)
UTG ($4.10)
MP ($9.45)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K. CO posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG raises to $0.4, MP calls $0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, UTG raises to $4.1, MP folds, Hero calls $2.60.

Flop: ($8.80) A, A, 3 (2 players)

Turn: ($8.80) 7 (2 players)

River: ($8.80) 9 (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.80
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Here's a similar hand a few orbits later . . villain has replaced the previous guy he's 60/22 over 13 hands so again no real substantial reads. I'm not overly sure I played this anywhere near right and went more with the gut on the turn than anything else, thoughts?

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SB ($5.25)
Hero ($13.80)
UTG ($0.40)
MP ($8.60)
CO ($8.40)
Button ($9.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, MP raises to $0.3, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20.

Flop: ($1.20) , , (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($1.20) (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.8, CO folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $2, MP folds.

Final Pot: $2.80
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:43 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1

First up, opps stats over 7 hands are meaningless - you need a much bigger sample.

Also, I raise to around $2 preflop but meh.

The only concern is his position - he may have a pair but you have the odds and outs - but I think you have to call here.

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I would normally re-raise this preflop though a call isn't out of the question given the action and the original raiser's position. If you're going to raise the turn, raise like you mean it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:43 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'm starting to like this ring game malarky, this ok? Guess it is pretty much.

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SB ($3.60)
Hero ($15.80)
UTG ($5.60)
MP ($6)
CO ($8.75)
Button ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 2. MP posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 2, 6, Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, MP folds, CO calls $0.35, SB folds.

Turn: ($1.10) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($1.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, CO raises to $4.2, Hero raises to $15.35, CO calls $4.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $17.70
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:49 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 There's plenty on the river that beats you - I just call his raise.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:49 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Cheers Kevster, yeah I'm aware that those stats are pretty meaningless but the guy was well slightly weird. I'm guessing with reads and against a tighter more regular player we lay it down?

He turned 56o if anyone's interested.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:53 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 2

I would normally re-raise this preflop though a call isn't out of the question given the action and the original raiser's position. If you're going to raise the turn, raise like you mean it.
To say $3? If he then comes over the top what do we do then.

The 22, does it not strike you more likely as a flush hit far more than a bigger boat? Although I see arguments for just calling his bet.

I do suck at ring so all this is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:01 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I think you misread hand 2 Kevster, hero has a boat.
Definately all-in in hand 2.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:31 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Hand 2

I would normally re-raise this preflop though a call isn't out of the question given the action and the original raiser's position. If you're going to raise the turn, raise like you mean it.
To say $3? If he then comes over the top what do we do then.

The 22, does it not strike you more likely as a flush hit far more than a bigger boat? Although I see arguments for just calling his bet.

I do suck at ring so all this is greatly appreciated.
Ok, I misread hand 3 completely - ignore me - I'm happy to re-raise and go broke here.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:33 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I think you misread hand 2 Kevster, hero has a boat.
Definately all-in in hand 2.
You're right - except this was hand 3
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:11 PM #11 (permalink)  
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hand 1 push or fold preflop. If hes 3bet/4bet a couple of times since i sat down i push. otherwise probably fold.

hand 2 ok. might make a big reraise preflop.

hand 3 bet the turn.
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hand 1 push or fold preflop. If hes 3bet/4bet a couple of times since i sat down i push. otherwise probably fold.

hand 2 ok. might make a big reraise preflop.

hand 3 bet the turn.
Everything Pelion said.

Also, regarding hand #1, there's no way I'm folding AK preflop to an unknown with 40bbs in his stack.


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Old 01-11-2008, 09:58 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Can you guys explain in simple terms why betting the turn is preferred in 3?

I'm obviously pretty inexperienced at ring, mainly play SNGs but if we bet say 3/4 pot here would we chase the flush draw out, we're not going to get rid of another Q, but with a set do we look to represent a Q?

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Old 01-12-2008, 02:15 AM #14 (permalink)  
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i am late to the party here, but i usually dont read the remarks until i type in my own. so, take this for what its worth.

hand one...you DO have signifcant reads after only 7 hands. dont let anyone tell you differently. not on most players, but THIS one, yes, significant. anyone who raises 5 of the 7 hands they have been dealt at a table is HYPERAGGRO. its not like he is likely to settle down into a 20/15 TAG.

your play was standard. nice flop, too.

hand two...again, decent read on this guy being rather loose and a bit aggro. not as solid as the 57/57 idiot, but still youve seen few hands and this guy is raising/playing often enough he's likely got trash.

i 3bet this against THIS villain. however, the flop was pure trash for your hand against a villain this wide open. he could feasably have 23s for the flopped flush. even when the Q hits, you need to proceed with caution. i call the bet on the turn and look for a non-spade river for a c/c cheap showdown. a bit passive, yes, but against another likely hyperaggro, he is likely to RR you with anything. and you cannot call a RR here, even though you are likely still best. TPTK on this flushy board is a marginal hand, especially against a player showing us hes rather loose.

hand three...you need to raise that 22 out of the BB if you hope to stack most villains when you catch a flop like this one. limping wont get it done most times. your flop bet was good, your turn check was horrible. you hit your boat and likely trapped trip Q's into the hand with you!! keep betting here! the river was great, too. you have a full house with trips and a flush very likely. get the money in. if he has Q5/Q6/55/66, so be it. you will catch the flush and trip Q's often enough it is still profitable to get the money in here.

i just saw the 56o. that is why you keep betting and stack off on this river. if you bet the turn, maybe villain drops out, but oh well. if he is stupid, and doesnt fold, thats an even WIDER range to stack off against because he will call your push.

and, there arent nearly as many hands out that beat you as previously said. not enough to outweigh all the hands you WHOOP, and that will stack off when 2nd best here.

i see that some posters missed the boat, too. AS DID YOU!! shame.

to your "do we rep the Q with the set?" YES!! the flush draw isnt likely to bail at these stakes and the Q calls or RRes the flop. plus, the turn paired the Q giving YOU the boat!! and, like i said, it completely coolers any hand with a Q, as he just landed trips and will think you are bluffing being that he knows of 3 Q's out...unlikely you have the 4th.
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