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apunisher
Old 07-26-2006, 05:01 PM     Post subject: AK turn c/r ai #1 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 4811571138 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 26, 12:55:19 ET 2006
Table Table 106799 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: trubby ( $405.94 )
Seat 6: AATrain01 ( $98 )
Seat 1: huso2k ( $311.07 )
Seat 2: wabisabi44 ( $183.10 )
Seat 4: OceanMan ( $56.40 )
Seat 3: ROC21KET ( $99 )
AATrain01 posts small blind [$0.50].
huso2k posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ As Kc ]
wabisabi44 calls [$1].
ROC21KET calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 106811 Table!.
OceanMan folds.
trubby calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 106811 Table!.
AATrain01 raises [$5.50].
huso2k folds.
wabisabi44 calls [$5].
ROC21KET calls [$5].
trubby folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Ac, Jc ]
AATrain01 bets [$13].
wabisabi44 folds.
>You have options at Table 106807 Table!.
ROC21KET calls [$13].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
>You have options at Table 106780 Table!.
AATrain01 checks.
>You have options at Table 106807 Table!.
ROC21KET bets [$26.08].
AATrain01 is all-In [$79]
ROC21KET calls [$52.92].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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nothing wrong with that
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:43 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Whats your plan for the river if he checks behind?
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:09 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Whats your plan for the river if he checks behind?
c/c a safe river, block bet a scary river
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:20 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I like it too, think you got your money in with the best hand. Not to be results oriented but did you get three outered on the river?
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I like it too, think you got your money in with the best hand. Not to be results oriented but did you get three outered on the river?
he turned over 64c for turned 2pair. I think he probably still bets the turn w/out 2pair because this looks a lot like a missed cbet/
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I like it too, think you got your money in with the best hand. Not to be results oriented but did you get three outered on the river?
he turned over 64c for turned 2pair. I think he probably still bets the turn w/out 2pair because this looks a lot like a missed cbet/
Yeah, if he called the flop bet he would bet when checked to on turn even without making two pair.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:57 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i doubt he bets turn without the two pair or flush because he didnt raise the flop with his monster draw
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:06 PM #9 (permalink)  

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Didn't see the flush draw?
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:38 PM #10 (permalink)  
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if hes passive enough to not raise that draw on the flop then i dont think he bets the turn
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:55 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I don't like going AI with TPTK...I see this same advice all over FTR. Do you have a read that makes this a good decision?
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:07 PM #12 (permalink)  
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I don't like going AI with TPTK
y not, are u just repeating what you hear everyone else say? I normally don't go ai with Tptk either, but i think that there is a time and a place for it. I beat a lot of hands that call my flop bet, and i lose to only a few, namely A4, AJ, JJ, 44. All the hands that i beat are weaker aces and flush draws. On the turn, if i bet again and he smooth calls, i still wont know where i stand and could get bet off of the best hand on the river by a busted draw or weaker ace.
I can check and allow weaker hands to bet into me, and then they may have too much committed at that point to fold to my push. Those were my thoughts on the hand.
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u go allin with tptk when you think the other person will call with a worse hand
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:16 PM #14 (permalink)  
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I don't like going AI with TPTK
y not, are u just repeating what you hear everyone else say?
Yes and No. I'm trying to understand when the time and place is to make that move. I do it when I have a read that the opp is a maniac or extremely loose and may have anything, but mostly won't have me beat. But I see it repeated so often not to do it, I was trying to figure out why it should be done. That's why I asked about a read...not a critique, just trying to understand. Personally, I've stacked off with it too much for that move to be +EV...but that isn't necessarily the case with other, better players.

*Edit: Thanks for explaining your reasoning.
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