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Werddown
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07-22-2006, 06:22 PM
Post subject: ak tptk minraised
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PokerStars Game #5643079335: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/07/22 - 14:11:08 (ET)
Table 'Flammario' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: V.I.Pete ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Galilee ($9.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Maleah25 ($8.95 in chips)
Seat 4: embalmer75 ($3.05 in chips)
Seat 5: joecherrito ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Werddown ($10.60 in chips)
embalmer75: posts small blind $0.05
joecherrito: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Werddown [Ks Ac]
Werddown: raises $0.40 to $0.50
V.I.Pete: folds
Galilee: folds
Maleah25: calls $0.50
embalmer75: folds
joecherrito: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [7d Ah 3h]
joecherrito: checks
Werddown: bets $1.10
Maleah25: raises $1.10 to $2.20
Werddown: ?
Villian is 44/11/1.5 over about 50 hands. Haven't paid attention to him much.
For some reason I just cant figure out what I should've done. The first thing I thought when he min-raised was "2pair/set"... But this is $10 NL on a saturday and people way overplay a pair of aces... But they also min-raise the shit out of strong made hands.
What's a +EV move here? Folding just seems weak to me (though maybe the right move) and I was pretty sure he'd bet the turn if I called on the flop and then checked to him (protecting against the flush draw).. No real chance of a cheap showdown I dont think (but maybe I should try for it anyways?).. The only other option is push, which would be risking like 80 bbs.. plus I have no heart. I would feel better about pushing if I had at least a heart for some chance to suck out. Joecherrito is still left to act too...not that it matters too much.
If this was a larger raise (say 2-3x my raise) instead of a min-raise, would you push over it?
I think from now on I'm just going to give it to them unless I have a good re-draw possibility + some folding equity or I'm getting odds to call because of the min-raise... Or I have a read that they will min-raise with tpwk or a bluff (which is very rarely ever the case).
I dunno I suck at situations like this. And it frustrates me. Fuck you min-raise.
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gabe
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i would push
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jackvance
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He might be minraising a flushdraw, in which case he'll take a free card on the turn if you call and check..
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Werddown
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jackvance
He might be minraising a flushdraw, in which case he'll take a free card on the turn if you call and check..
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How often would players at this limit with those stats do this? Especially when it looks kind of obvious that I probably have an ace due to my 5x utg pfr and pretty strong flop bet vs 2 opponents. I dont think I've ever seen one of these players raise for a free card. I think FD just calls with bad odds.
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Werddown
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
i would push
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but why?
I can definitely see a case for pushing I would just like to hear your reasoning.
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gabe
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you have TPTK in a shorthanded $10 NL game, worse hands will call
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Werddown
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
you have TPTK in a shorthanded $10 NL game, worse hands will call
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so just ignore the min-raise and felt it with TPTK at all times at $10 NL then?
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gabe
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yes, i prob push here against a fish at $1000nl too
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