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Old 03-11-2009, 07:22 PM     Post subject: AK facing river overbet. #1 (permalink)  
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saw flop

Hero (UTG) (kr843.36)
SB (kr984.76)
MP (kr535)
BB (kr1034.94)
Button (kr943.69)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A
Hero bets kr17.50, 1 fold, Button calls kr17.50, 2 folds

Flop: (kr42.50) 6, Q, K (2 players)
Hero bets kr31.87, Button calls kr31.87

Turn: (kr106.24) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets kr79.68, Button calls kr79.68

River: (kr265.60) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets kr333
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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checking the river isnt very good
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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yeah bet river.

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Old 03-11-2009, 09:47 PM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah, bet river. As played I call. We chop a lot, but he could possibly have AQ, or even AcQc (gross). Your check shows so much weakness after betting 2 streets I think we have to call as a really expensive bluff catcher.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:51 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Aren't we a bit to strong to turn our hand into a bluff? What worse hand is calling a push here?
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:41 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Yeah I think if you were gonna check it should of been on the turn when you hit the king, I also think your hand is probably good there.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:42 PM #8 (permalink)  

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Dude has ace jack.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:06 AM #9 (permalink)  
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if we bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot here on the riv, can we fold to a shove? what hand other than AQ would shove? TJ obv shoves.

really dont' know why you'd check the river here, this card is good for you
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:02 AM #10 (permalink)  
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if we bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot here on the riv, can we fold to a shove? what hand other than AQ would shove? TJ obv shoves.

really dont' know why you'd check the river here, this card is good for you
I was planning to check call, hoping that a missed flush draw would try to steal it. The overbet confused me though.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:02 AM #11 (permalink)  
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so the only reason you'd ever fold on a c/c here is by specifically putting him on TJ or set. fairly narrow range.

id prefer to bet here and take it down a lot, and if i check i think i call most of the time.

the thing is often we create river spots where we think checking is good to induce bluffs but really the best option with a good hand is to bet an amount where the widest range of hands calls us for max value. this perhaps is a case where we want to bet a lot where we get called by fewer hands but still get paid. ie instead of betting 1/3 pot and getting called 2/3 times we beat near pot and get called 1 in 3 times type thing.

if u think he's easily capable of bluffing these types of rivers (missed draws etc) you can consider betting real small - get called by fairly weak hands, plus you sometimes induce a raise when he thinks you are weak
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:16 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Thanks for the input. I did call and he showed J10 for the nuts.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:53 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I think he either bluffing or he hit the A on the river.if i'am in your position,I would shove all in...
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:32 PM #14 (permalink)  
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maybe he had a set on a flop and just called 2 times
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:59 AM #15 (permalink)  
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bet river, call as played

if you check any street it should be turn
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:48 PM #16 (permalink)  
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if you are checking turn here, are you doing it to make a checkraise? if so whats your CR sizing on this board?
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:36 AM #17 (permalink)  
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no if i checked turn it would be to call
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