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Leviathan
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10-18-2006, 08:28 PM
Post subject: AK facing continuation bet from bluffer. nl 100
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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6max 100nl
effective stacks are 110 bb
Villian was 57/52/5 over only 100 hands
He bluffed often every street including the river. Thats why I just called preflop.
Preflop:
Dealt to Hero A K (button)
Villian raises 3.50$,everybody folds, Hero calls,sb and bb folds
*** FLOP *** [J 9 7] Pot: 8.5$
Villian bets 5$, Hero ???
I have an additional question: Is it okay to just call with AK preflop versus an average villian from time to time for deception value?
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Fnord
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How loose is he post-flop?
Does he fold to resistance?
If you raise the flop, is he going to make you fire a turn bet before folding his whatever?
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Leviathan
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I don't know. I think thats the error I have to pay more attention right? big leak  but have 2 work on it  thanks
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Fnord
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When there is a guy at the table giving that much action, figure out his post-flop game ASAP. Confrontation is inevitable if he doesn't bust out first. That's where the real money comes from. You and the other wanna-be-TAggs are fighting for pocket change compared to the value this guy could be worth.
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Warpe
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You're usually best to wait until you have the goods to play back at a guy like this, but you also can't let him push you around. His bet sizes/betting patterns are usually the best tell. His $5 into an $8.50 pot looks a lot like a c-bet here, and if he tends to make near pot-sized bets when he actually does have a hand (a lot of these guys do) I'd probably raise here, but without that read I'm done.
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Fnord
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Warpe,
A lot of these guys are too retarded to fold to any single act of aggression on a cheap street. I expect to have to fire a second barrel. I see so many TAggs go stupid ape-shit-aggro with AK and stack off to one pair here.
You played it cheap, you didn't get there, your position sucks, fold.
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Warpe
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You read my post, right?
Sans reads otherwise, fold.
That said, against a 57/52, if I don't have the reads I need I'm going to try to get some by testing him a little.
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aislephive
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Not 3 betting preflop against a 57/52 with AK is a crime, you are so far ahead of his range. But I suppose if he is THAT bad calling preflop can be acceptable. If you're going to just call I would fold the flop, especially if he double barrells a lot. It really also could have hit him very easily. On a 662 flop where AK is likely good you might call down, but here it's likely he has at least some kind of gutshot / pair and all we have are overcards which might not be good. Raise or fold the flop, probably folding is the best option.
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