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bspahn

07-18-2008, 06:31 PM Post subject: AJ vs nit & fish

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red_river is nit 17/14, stamos=fish

I do like this flop, I need to know where I'm at, does this guy lead sets/str8 etc or is it a donk bet with any J or a hand like 1010 and HE's unsure where he's at?

I don't see a point in betting a blank turn as by now i'd say he will fold hands like TJ,QJ, KJ etc, i have a better chance of getting another few bucks on the river against those hands with a smallish bet

obv I get a nice river, I don't think he'd be going for a checkraise here with set/str8 so how much do i want to bet and what am i hoping he'll be paying it off with?

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Seat 1: dwbh28 ($200)
Seat 2: doomboy ($431.60)
Seat 3: Wired_Nutz ($200)
Seat 4: red_river1 ($214.60)
Seat 5: stamos62 ($48.55)
Seat 6: KoreanHacker ($200)
red_river1 posts the small blind of $1
stamos62 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dwbh28 [Ad Jh]
KoreanHacker folds
dwbh28 raises to $7
doomboy folds
Wired_Nutz folds
red_river1 calls $6
stamos62 calls $5
*** FLOP *** [7c Jd 9s]
red_river1 has 15 seconds left to act
red_river1 bets $14
stamos62 folds
dwbh28 has 15 seconds left to act
dwbh28 raises to $36
red_river1 has 15 seconds left to act
red_river1 calls $22
*** TURN *** [7c Jd 9s] [2h]
red_river1 checks
dwbh28 checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Jd 9s 2h] [Ac]
red_river1 checks

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Deanglow

07-18-2008, 07:22 PM

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raising the flop is terrible, call and see what he does

bspahn

07-19-2008, 08:55 PM

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ok i see raising the flop is bad as I'm likely to only get action from set/str8 for stacks etc.

so i'm trying to get value here from any other J that isn't 2pr here correct? Once I call here, you say reevaluate the turn - what would my line be on the turn in this case? say the turn is a blank
a) he checks
b) he bets

Beck

07-20-2008, 12:11 AM

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you are both full stacked, I see nothing wrong with a raise here to see where you are at. Maybe make it 30 instead of 36 to keep pot smaller. He could just as easily be betting a draw or kj. checking turn I think is Good, keep pot small. now on river I think a bet is good here since a set or a hand that beats you would bet on the river especially with the A out to get another call from you. I say bet 1/2 to 3/4 pot here and fold to a re-raise. a set will re-raise, but j9 79 will definitely call. Jx will probably fold, but may call a 1/2 pot bet.

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07-20-2008, 12:55 AM

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call flop

as played i probably bet 2/3 pot on the river and hope he calls with JT.

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07-21-2008, 03:04 AM

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I would definitely call flop for reasons stated above and now I would overbet as played because this bet is at least as likely to get called by a thinking player as any other. You didnt bet a blank turn after raising the flop on a wet board, and now are overbetting a relatively blank river-this looks super inconsistent and he's not going to put you on a random ace with this betsizing nor will he put u on a flopped big hand because of the turn action.

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