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Old 09-02-2007, 08:00 PM     Post subject: Aggro tard, bad turn #1 (permalink)  
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 Opp is real bad, threebets a good amount, calls a good amount too pre. Aggro post, however im not positive that he'll raise the flop with complete air, but like will with any K.
He c/r draws on the flop. Just fold turn? He's really followed through on all his bets unfortunately i havent had the cards to see what he had.

POKERSTARS GAME #11830725581: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/09/02 - 14:23:25 (ET)
Table 'Suevia II' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: heybude ($273 in chips)
Seat 2: jomapel ($433 in chips)
heybude: posts small blind $1
jomapel: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [Jd Kd]
heybude: raises $4 to $6
jomapel: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2s 4h Kh]
jomapel: checks
heybude: bets $8
jomapel: raises $14 to $22
heybude: calls $14
*** TURN *** [2s 4h Kh] [Qh]
jomapel: bets $26
heybude: calls $26
*** RIVER *** [2s 4h Kh Qh] [Ts]
jomapel: bets $70
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I assume no one knows wtf to do or there'd be some responses?
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:54 AM #3 (permalink)  
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id call because thats what i do when i dont know wtf to do...

edit: seriously I think you can fold the river unless hes really aggro and tardy. I dont really think he has less than a K after raising the flop and then betting both streets and most playable Kings are either hitting 2 pair or slowing down ALOT.
Im not sure if you should have done something different before then though. It sounds like hes going to bet the turn with anything he raised the flop with so I guess you cant fold turn if you think youre ahead enough to call the flop (since his flush might have hit... but meh, hes less likely to have KQ). Raising sucks because it really polarises his range into stuff that folds and stuff that beats you and there arent enough hands in his range that you want to protect against enough to put more chips at risk. Preflop loose/tightness really comes into this. Does he have K3? K3s? or is he only playing like K8+.

So yea like I was saying I dont know wtf to do. My advice is dont raise
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 mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

question for you, arguments for/against 3betting the flop?
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mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

question for you, arguments for/against 3betting the flop?

pro: ....

con: wins least/ loses most. Few hands to protect against atm.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:25 AM #6 (permalink)  
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mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

question for you, arguments for/against 3betting the flop?
I beat three hands, a flush draw, and Kx, and a bluff (weak draw maybe).

everything else a threebet would be handing money to.

The only reason to threebet is if the only thing that is putting much more money in that im beating is a flush draw, but in that case i'd probably call and fold when it completes.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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a flush draw, but in that case i'd probably call and fold when it completes.
but you didn't here
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:03 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I would play the same as you did. I might fold the turn, if I have a read or if you know that he will fire again on the river, but river is a clear fold even for a calling station like me.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:51 PM #9 (permalink)  
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a flush draw, but in that case i'd probably call and fold when it completes.
but you didn't here
because im still beating Kx (I felt like this opponent may kamikaze a worse kicker) and a weak draw bluff (less likely because no one seems to like bluffing these cards).
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 I play it the same, i just fold river.
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