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minSim
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11-02-2008, 06:03 PM
Post subject: About checking a turn and raising rivers
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13/12/9.0 over 93 hands, 3bet 9% fwiw.
Any comments about my turn check?
Should I raise river? Can I bluff raise it lightly when I come here without a good hand?
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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer Game#21695206875
SB ($41.10)
BB ($31.10)
UTG ($25.35)
Hero ($26)
BTN ($25)
Dealt to Hero A A
fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, call, fold,
FLOP ($1.95) K4 K
check, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25,
TURN ($4.45) K4K9
check, check,
RIVER ($4.45) K4K9Q
SB bets $2.50, Hero ?
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thizzSantaCruz
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if you think hes a big station and will call this with a queen then you can raise but what hands with a queen in it call the flop? He is probably not calling a raise with JJ, TT or anything like that. I would just call here, maybe throwing in a min raise and folding to a 3 bet is good if he has shown some stationy tenancies in spots like this.
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Da GOAT
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i dont see any other option besides just call.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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nutsinho
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i dont really get why you would want to raise here at all. i question your hand reading if you think he makes a decent sized value bet here with many pocket pairs.
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BigLRIP
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I would try to get 3 streets of value instead of checking the turn.
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i question your hand reading if you think he makes a decent sized value bet here with many pocket pairs.
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really? to me that seems to be the majority of his range to be honest...
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nutsinho
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which unimproved pocket pairs would you bet this river with, and what would you expect to get looked up by? TT and JJ seem like the only sane holdings to me that could be worse going for value, since they should expect us to have 9x sometimes, and it is very speculative to assume that these hands would be bet/calling the river.
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nutsinho
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oh also it is v important that he bet like 3/4 pot, not some gheybet
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minSim
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i dont really get why you would want to raise here at all. i question your hand reading if you think he makes a decent sized value bet here with many pocket pairs.
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I'm glad I called than.
But really, I couldn't make much out of villains river bet. I'm not sure a K is in his range, and besides that JJ/TT seems a bit too thin at 25NL as well.
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dsaxton
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Yeah, definitely just call. It's a situation where you should probably call even if you're a monster favorite against his betting range, because your hand sucks against his bet-calling range.
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