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yourfather
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02-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Post subject: AA vs stationy donk 100nl
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Full House
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Villain is kinda aggro but also cant fold much.
If he has 1010 oh well.
Thoughts on this hand plz.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
Hero (BTN): $150.90
SB: $185.95
BB: $118.80
UTG: $103
MP: $26.90
CO: $192.80
Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP raises to $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $7.50, SB folds, BB calls $6.50, MP folds
Flop: ($17.50) K 8 6 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14
Turn: ($45.50) 9 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB calls $26
River: ($97.50) 7 (2 Players)
BB bets $71.30 and is All-In, Hero calls $71.30
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Renton
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that call is roughly eV= -71.30
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yourfather
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lol awesome. I almost folded but I talked myself into calling.
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Parasurama
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Wait who's the stationy donk? jk jk i know you stacked me when i had AA
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yourfather
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Ha. yeah maybe this is really bad. The timing (insta) made me feel like he was turning a decent hand into a bluff though.
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zook
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I would have a lot of trouble folding here.
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Marshall28
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Feels disgusting.
I don't think he would be turning a made hand into a bluff though for the reason that the board is K high and he c/c 2 streets. AK/KQ make decent sense for him to be c/c 2 streets, neither of those would have any reason to turn into a bluff.
I really just think you have to fold, but at least you know you are gonna take this guy's money in the future regardless if he has it or not since he's playing poorly in either sense.
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Alexos
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I'd fold, never see people bluffing that much in this spot.
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mcatdog
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FWIW I've seen a lot of people take this line as a bluff lately when an obvious draw gets there on the river. Can't see how you called though.
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
FWIW I've seen a lot of people take this line as a bluff lately when an obvious draw gets there on the river. Can't see how you called though.
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What part of their check/calling range on flop AND turn will bluff shove this river?
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mcatdog
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Oh, I thought you were making a more general statement that people don't turn their hands into bluffs very much when they've been check-calling OOP and a draw gets there on the river.
I agree this call is dreadful, for many reasons (a lack of hands in his range that he needs to turn into a bluff, the fact that it's a 3bet pot and people at 100NL don't usually have the balls to try and push someone off an obvious TPTK or better for a stack).
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bjsaust
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
that call is roughly eV= -71.30
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I lol'd at this.
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yourfather
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Ya lol and all that but I guess I was lucky he had AKo. Anyways I am drunk and appreciate the feedback and usually it should be a fold im sure. But sometimes, you gotta say fuck it, make a move. (puts on ray bans)
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Renton
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fwiw i just read the "stationey donk" part. The fact that he's an aggressive donk makes the call not as bad.
more like eV = $-40
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bode
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its a fold, but
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Originally Posted by zook
I would have a lot of trouble folding here.
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this
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elipsesjeff
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If we bet more on turn this really wouldn't be a hard decision on the river.
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Fnord
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Bet more on the turn.
Against players that don't fold much, you should be making bigger bets overall and tend to bluff less and value bet more.
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