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elipsesjeff
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12-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Post subject: AA vs flop minraise and overcall
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Reads: Button has (seemingly) been minraising every damn time so I'm not too worried about his range. But the unknown BB is what I'm mainly worried about.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($55.40)
MP ($112.55)
Hero ($95)
Button ($123.90)
SB ($83)
BB ($92.55)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , A .
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3.
Flop: ($12.50) 4 , 2 , 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, Button raises to $16, BB calls $16, Hero calls $8.
Turn: ($60.50) J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($60.50) 9 (3 players)
BB bets $50, Hero calls $50, Button folds.
Final Pot: $160.50
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Fnord
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Yeah, that river bet makes me sick in the stomach too.
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i think u can bet 25 on the turn and fold to a raise, 25 seems weak but i dont think they can raise with worse and betting more and folding doesnt seem to be an option with stack sizes...as played looks like youre beat
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3bet/fold the flop?
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
3bet/fold the flop?
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That is when I have the most equity though. Figure, that even against a set I've got 6 outs, two pair I've got 9 on flop then 12 on turn. I wouldn't mind seeing a river here myself and would hate to fold after building a pot. Villain overcalls the flop with what? OESD (either the 3 or the top end) and 2 pair+.
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i think anyone with a strong draw will call your bet regardless...it's mainly to see if someone has a set or made straight. but then again, if they're smart, they would smooth call and you're left in the same situation.
oy...sandwiched sucks...
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
i think anyone with a strong draw will call your bet regardless...it's mainly to see if someone has a set or made straight. but then again, if they're smart, they would smooth call and you're left in the same situation.
oy...sandwiched sucks...
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Also, it would suck to call a push when some lags will do that with the OESD or even pair plus OESD. I like the flop call. Once the overcaller checks the turn a 1/2 bet then fold would be optimal and I could check/behind the river. Now, if villain pushes river I'm FUBARed.
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WE tlaked about this hand yesterday.
I have thought about it and talked with other good players.
Seems like you took the right line, however that river might even be a fold simply because BB is unlikely to bluff here leading into 2 other players
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