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donkbee
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10-24-2007, 07:14 AM
Post subject: AA vs donk on scary board ($100NL, PP)
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Villain is running 55/14/0.5 over 40 hands. He is not good. For example, he will raise A9o UTG, call a 3 bet and call AI on a 9 high flop. I don't even know what to put him on when the flop is done. Do I slow down or go all the way on the turn?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (4 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($177.41)
Hero ($139.34)
UTG ($147.88)
Button ($103.53)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A .
1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.5, Button calls $4.
Flop: ($10.50) Q, J , T (2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button raises to $18, Hero raises to $37, Button calls $19.
Turn: ($84.50) J (2 players)
Hero ...?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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thizzSantaCruz
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My opinion would be that hes a station and hes raising a very dangerous board. In your previous example hes only been calling with TPTK in my opinion I think one pair might not be good here. It really helps to know what you think his range is PF. When you make that 3bet on the flop you are pretty much commiting your stack, you have what less than a pot behind? Nasty spot.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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wouterpoker
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raise more preflop ( i like 7 here). as played shove the turn. however i would never make the rereraise here on the flop, but just call. then try to see the showdown fairly cheap. i would fold to a push on the turn.
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Renton
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I would make a committing 3bet on the flop.
Turn is an awesome card for you and you can stick it in as played.
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sauce123
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courtie u rly rly rly need to stop making these mini 3bets unless they are with the specific intention of inducing a shove from a very weak hand. I dont believe thats the case here.
as played id call the min raise and prob check/evaluate most turn bets. what im saying is im not fist pump getting it in here and folding a good amnt.
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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sauce123
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i guess what im saying is if u get it in here and are way behind dont chalk it up to a cooler: you can definitely take responsibility for this one
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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donkbee
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Originally Posted by sauce123
i guess what im saying is if u get it in here and are way behind dont chalk it up to a cooler: you can definitely take responsibility for this one
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I suspected as much. Thanks for confirming it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Fnord
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Not thinking one street ahead is a re-occuring theme in your hand histories. The big decisions are comming a street late. What is your game-plan after building a bigger pot on this flop?
For what it's worth, I think calling to see a turn card is a reasonable line. So is making a big committing raise. Making a small raise just set you up for pain and suffering.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by wouterpoker
raise more preflop ( i like 7 here).
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LoL, 5 is fine unless you know he'll call 7. Blowing him out of the pot pre-flop is a really bad idea. We want to put some money in the pot and gamble with him post-flop!
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donkbee
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Not thinking one street ahead is a re-occuring theme in your hand histories. The big decisions are comming a street late. What is your game-plan after building a bigger pot on this flop?
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This is why I suck at chess sooo much!
Great point, thanks for mentioning it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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