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CorbinDallas
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05-29-2008, 05:57 PM
Post subject: AA vs 64/10/.5
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Flush
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he's 64/10/.5 over 48 hands. he's shown down A8o, A4o, Q8s, Q7o, J8o, 95o.
standard fold right? the board is not to good for AA considering the board nails his limping range for either two pair or a straight.
the converter is messing up.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($39.45)
Hero ($25.90)
Button ($44.30)
SB ($49.75)
BB ($24.65)
UTG ($48.85)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , A .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.3, 3 folds, MP calls $1.05.
Flop: ($2.95) 7, 8 , J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.4, MP calls $2.40.
Turn: ($7.75) 9[img] 7, 8c, Jc, 9d
MP bets $3.50
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ATOTHEC101
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yup id have to agree wth you, seems you almost definately had him on the flop but this turn smacks his range and your likely crushed by a str8 or crappy 2 pair. Let it go and wait for a better spot against this guy.
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mixchange
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I don't think you can fold quite yet, though imo most flop c/c and turn leads reek of strength. It's only half pot and some villains take this line (oddly enough) with a pair and FD trying to "bluff" scare cards. It can also by a "blocking bet" where villain himself may have a good hands but is scared of the card and decides to throw out a medium bet.
Since villain is so bad we can't fold yet for half the pot. Call turn and evaluate river since he hasn't shown down sc's (if his range also has 78, 79 710 810 I'd think more about folding). He doesn't have a 10 enough here to fold yet.
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DJJunkPauds
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Eh, I look him up here, and fold to a decent river bet. I think he has a scared two pair, a scared J with no draw, or absolute air. Never say never, but it seems unlikely he'd do this with the straight. Even the fishiest of fish understand how this looks, and what it's likely going to make you do, and if he doesn't mind you folding, he probably doesn't have a straight.
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DJJunkPauds
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...another a point is that a lot of hands he's scared with that beat you, you still have some decent equity against, and implied odds (not masses, but enough).
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Galapogos
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Easy fold.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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mixchange
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Easy fold.
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can you explain why? we're awfully weak and exploitable if we fold half pot with AA to scare cards
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by mixchange
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Easy fold.
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can you explain why? we're awfully weak and exploitable if we fold half pot with AA to scare cards |
I guess, if you're afraid of a 64/10/0.5 exploiting you.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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mixchange
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i probably used the wrong word. ignore "exploitable" and stick with "incredibly weak". Because I read this as more a "blocking/feeler bet" from someone who doesn't know what to do. Most bad players aren't betting a 10 for value here anyway, the check to TARP you.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Easy call.
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Board makes me not want to play for stacks, but I think we have way too much equity to fold.
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Robb
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
yup id have to agree wth you, seems you almost definately had him on the flop but this turn smacks his range and your likely crushed by a str8 or crappy 2 pair. Let it go and wait for a better spot against this guy.
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I disagree. Just because he's 64/10 doesn't mean he limp/calls pre with all his junk. He's much more likely to have a draw or a weak combo right now than any kind of 2 pair/monster. I'm probably calling the turn and check/calling the river when any AKQ5432 hits that doesn't complete the flush, and maybe even then depending upon bet size.
Fnord +1 (just read his post).
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Easy call.
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Board makes me not want to play for stacks, but I think we have way too much equity to fold. |
So you're also calling his inevitable river bet if it's reasonable and the board doesn't get even worse? Not being rhetorical, just honestly curious.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Robb
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Easy call.
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Board makes me not want to play for stacks, but I think we have way too much equity to fold. |
So you're also calling his inevitable river bet if it's reasonable and the board doesn't get even worse? Not being rhetorical, just honestly curious. |
Don't know what fnord would do, but yes, i would.
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