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The Odds God
Old 06-07-2007, 04:21 PM     Post subject: AA on the river HU hand #1 (permalink)  
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Hero (t1020)
BB (t1980)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
Hero calls t15, BB raises to t60, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t120) 6, 2, 9 (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero raises to t180, BB calls t120.

Turn: (t480) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t240, BB calls t240.

River: (t960) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t540 (All-In), BB calls t540.

Final Pot: t2040

I consider my river bet here. Villain is pretty solid. He called my raise on the flop quickly so I put him on a draw (I could be wrong here, not a strong read) so that T was actually a scary card. He is also capable of slowplaying a hand on flop, turn and on the river. I don't have any crazy image. I was just wondering if I can move in for value here on the river.
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hero should get more in preflop. I would also raise a little stronger on the flop, and I'm shoving the turn.

The river should be irrelevant.

As played, I think you HAVE to shove the river. You need the pot, and opp has played passive. You're likely beat, but You've got to take your chances, I think.

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Old 06-07-2007, 04:55 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Preflop is debatable, I know. I decided to get a little tricky and give villain a shot at catching something.

Why would I have to shove river when I am likely beat? It is a big pot and if I am beat, I don't lose my stack. Plus, the structure is such that blinds do not increase. If the blinds did increase, I am positive that moving in is the best play here. But since they don't, I might just check behind and play some smallbal if I lose to get my stack back. That was I thinking after the match.
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I would check river, I just can't see 9x calling. Maybe T8/T7, or I guess he could have Qx spades and got there by mistake, but meh.

Generally I would play this faster on all other streets.

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You need the pot, and opp has played passive. You're likely beat, but You've got to take your chances, I think.
This makes no sense, the question isn't whether to call a push, it's whether or not to check. If you think we're beat, why would we bet?
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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This makes no sense, the question isn't whether to call a push, it's whether or not to check. If you think we're beat, why would we bet?
drmcboy is right... upon further thought... yes, checking behind is probably correct.

I still think I'd put more in the pot on earlier streets. Preflop is debatable... I flat call too here once in a while, But I'm betting larger on the flop once the board starts to coordinate.

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Old 06-07-2007, 05:30 PM #6 (permalink)  

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Preflop is debatable, I know. I decided to get a little tricky and give villain a shot at catching something.

Why would I have to shove river when I am likely beat? It is a big pot and if I am beat, I don't lose my stack. Plus, the structure is such that blinds do not increase. If the blinds did increase, I am positive that moving in is the best play here. But since they don't, I might just check behind and play some smallbal if I lose to get my stack back. That was I thinking after the match.
the structure is irrelevant (unless it moves at an astoundingly rapid pace) in a situation like this, except that the blinds are thus and so in relation to the stacks. we don't need to think ahead, unless the levels go very quickly or the next level is a very significant jump from the current level.

i agree with drmc that we should check behind here. at the end of a STT, players tend to get loose and i might jam as you did because there are a lot of worse hands that will have called me down. HU from the get-go though, players tend to be a little tighter and more selective and i think you're not getting value by jamming here.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:38 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I agree with you, guys. I actually decided to play smallball poker because blinds don't increase plus the villain was easy to outplay postflop and I pushed the river despite my plan. So I think I made a terrible play here.

And he showed 65 of hearts at the end.
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