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Old 01-22-2010, 12:51 AM     Post subject: AA oop facing raise on flop #1 (permalink)  
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Wasn't sure of best line vs. this villain his stats are 21/16/6.3 3bet. Aggression Freq of 24% total, 47% on flop. However I do have a note from a previous hand where I just said "played QQ passive pre and on TJ9 rb flop, check 8 turn and just called K river".

So what's the best play when he raises the flop?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero bets $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 6, J, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, Button raises to $10.50, Hero ($44.50) ?
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think folding and calling are pretty close here and would hate to do either one. There are a TON of draws in his range which makes playing the turn hard when a diamond, 7,9,T or Q hit.

Btw, your decision here may have been a tad easier had you raised 3Xbb pre then led out with $2.50 on the flop as it makes your stack less awkward in this spot.
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:38 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd rather get it in than calling, so imo it's close between folding and raising and I'd take the latter, I guess I'd just shove it in.

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Btw, your decision here may have been a tad easier had you raised 3Xbb pre then led out with $2.50 on the flop as it makes your stack less awkward in this spot.
Although I haven't really thought of 3xing pre because of a spot like this and I agree with what you say, I still like 4xing pre UTG for a lot of reasons. Potting this flop makes stacksizes less awkward as well, so hero can do just that imo.
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I think folding and calling are pretty close here and would hate to do either one. There are a TON of draws in his range which makes playing the turn hard when a diamond, 7,9,T or Q hit.

Btw, your decision here may have been a tad easier had you raised 3Xbb pre then led out with $2.50 on the flop as it makes your stack less awkward in this spot.
So Gator are you opening to 3x from all positions or even less in late position? I generally have been opening to 4x early and mid and 3x in CO and BTN.
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:15 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 It's close but I like both calling with intention of lead shoving any blank turn and shoving flop.
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 very close especially since you dont have the Ad i wouldnt worry about it either way
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I think folding and calling are pretty close here and would hate to do either one. There are a TON of draws in his range which makes playing the turn hard when a diamond, 7,9,T or Q hit.

Btw, your decision here may have been a tad easier had you raised 3Xbb pre then led out with $2.50 on the flop as it makes your stack less awkward in this spot.
So Gator are you opening to 3x from all positions or even less in late position? I generally have been opening to 4x early and mid and 3x in CO and BTN.
I generally open 3X from all positions except SB where I open 4X
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:44 AM #9 (permalink)  
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52,470 games 0.005 secs 10,494,000 games/sec

Board: 6d Jd 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.213% 55.21% 00.00% 28970 0.00 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 44.787% 44.79% 00.00% 23500 0.00 { JJ, 88, 66, AQs-ATs, A8s, QTs-Q9s, J8s, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s, 54s }



Its pretty close. Being out of position i would lean on getting more money in on the flop and calling a shove. OOP when we call here our hand is pretty face up and he can play really well against our range on that board.
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