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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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01-14-2010, 11:57 PM
Post subject: AA, fish insta shoves river - 50NL
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 834
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Fish has silverstar showing and is something like 45/10/1 after only 25 hands. He tanked for awhile on the turn and insta shoved river. I'm thinking of calling and taking note if he has me beat.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) -
Hero (CO) ($53.80)
Button ($53.15)
SB ($34.50)
BB ($81.25)
UTG ($82.80)
MP ($10.50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with  , 
2 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold
Flop: ($3.50)  ,  ,  (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3
Turn: ($9.50)  (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, SB calls $7.50
River: ($24.50)  (2 players)
SB bets $22.50 (All-In)
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JL
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I snap call
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surviva316
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Originally Posted by JL
I snap call
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this.
fish are gonna think that you're so FoS on this board that they're going to play back in weird/bad ways. even discounting this, though, the value range that we beat is much wider than the potential hands that beat us
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nutsinho
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mehhhhhhhhhh i probably look it up and dont feel good about it
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meeloche
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I would never fold to this line, although on this board I'm not as thrilled as others.
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Alexos
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Puke call. Rly feel like we're beat but against an unknown I'll just take that ~33% and find out.
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jimmy44
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If the flop was 2 tone (instead of rainbow) and the river the flush doesn't hit than I would snap call.
Here, vs this villain I might even fold ... (but I'm a nit) ...
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XTR1000
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call, hes being stupid often enough
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shakesss
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Not a fist pump but i think its a call. The draws in this spot are 46, 76 and 79. I don't think 79 would call the turn bet but maybe 46 and 76 will. Another hand i can think of is 66. Since u say he tanked it it might be 66, but he might also be thinking of making a fish call and call with any of the OE draws. Once he misses he goes into super spaz mode and ships it. I think most hands betting for value would raise turn and maybe make more of a value bet on the river.
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ATOTHEC101
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gay/fold, Whenever I call vs a fish's c/c, c/c, open jam line on non drawy boards they have always have the nuts.
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al yell
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Flush
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small sample but 45/10 strikes me as pretty passive and in my experience these guys aren't bluffing the river.
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GatorJH
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Yea, I agree with the nittier players here and, at those stakes, would probably fold. More often than not I am finding this line to be very strong rather than air.
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jyms
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With the amount of small stakes slow playing fish I tend not to play for 100BB's with an overpair if I cna't get a 3bet in preflop. But on this board he could be playing this with 99 or even think he's slow playing JJ or 68s 2pair. I snap knowing you only need to be right 33% of the time.
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surviva316
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4-of-a-Kind
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the fact that the board counterfeits all the two pairs in his range doesn't make you guys feel better about this? i can't imagine us not having 33%+ equity here
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Parasurama
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Well sure it makes us feel slightly better but you have to assume he knows this as well. This is a valid point if we're value betting the river but instead we're contemplating what to do versus a shove.
Of course, he could be a complete idiot and be value shoving 56. The lack of information plus the fact that he could be doing this with worse over pairs make this a marginal call imo.
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tpb221
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I'm a idiot poker player and I'm calling this. Must be wrong call then. There are a ton of hands that we beat that might do this but I think more times then not were beat. I see him having the full boat.
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Dragon Slayer
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Straight
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I Think we are most likley beat, but fug it I call.
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Dex
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Straight
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Nothing about villain's stack or line makes me think he currently deserves quite enough credit for a hand to fold, but I'm not thrilled to suddenly be the one having to call because this can definitely be a strong line for a fish.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 3x or 74 at all here, I feel like a lot of the time they c/c again with an 8, 99 kinda hands, but I just couldn't say that with enough certainty to fold.
I see a decent amount of c/c 2 streets and donk shove river, but I have yet to see this line with a lengthy timebank on the turn. Does that make it more or less of a call for people?
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bode
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i call but i'm not fist pumping. while 40/10 over 25 hands doesn't mean much, it points him in the passive fishy direction, and that player type always seems to have a boat after this line.
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Luke999
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Straight
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/Sigh call and never be good.
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Toadstool
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I don't think you're good often enough to call here. his stats suggest he is generally passive, these people C/C on the river with 1 pair hands, all the draws have either a pair or a gutshot now, and he'd almost always C/ decide with pairs.
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