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Old 10-02-2007, 07:01 PM     Post subject: AA, easy c/f? #1 (permalink)  
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Not much on villain but he's played over 50% of his hands, only raised something like 8% or so over 60 hands. I had to cobble this HH together since I'm at work, but the gist of it is there.

What kind of plan do you have for a flop like this OOP? I was going to 1/2 pot the turn. Should the T falling on the turn make us change our plan with a villain this loose (or is that a bad plan in the 1st place and should i just c/f the turn no matter what it is)?

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A A
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB folds.

Flop: K T K ($3.25, 2 players)
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Turn: T ($9.05, 2 players)
Hero c/f?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:24 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:52 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 definitely not an easy check-fold

for those advocating bet-fold where is the value in our bet?

I'd advocate c/c and then c/readvillain'ssoulonriver as the optimal line

it's hard to make a full house and villain's flop range is likely very wide including any PP, big unpaired broadways, QJ, J9... and obv the FH's.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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I checked the turn and he shoved.

Easy fold without a dead read?
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I dont understand b/f.


I think its a pretty easy fold to a shove
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 for the love of god don't b/f there
c/c is fine, c/f to a shove is fine
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 lol why would he overbet shove a FH there???
i have no idea what he has, but i probably fold...his line makes no sense but u its 25nl after all
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I don't understand b/f here at all either. I c/c the turn, and c/f to a shove. As played, he shoved, so fold.
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 You know what's really fun, trying to figure out what's going through Hyper/Bode's mind when they say "b/f"

I mean, not only do you give a poor answer but you don't even follow it up with any reasoning at all.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:01 AM #11 (permalink)  
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 In their defense, it would pretty much eliminate the possibility that villain would bluff Hero off the hand on the turn.

The problem is that by betting the turn you essentially turn your hand into a bluff.
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