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Silly String
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05-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Post subject: AA deep vs two morons
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UTG is 60BB deep and a 75/20/3 moron. I have built my stack against him by calling his bluff with missed str8 on a flushy river w/ A high & then valuetowning him with my AA. He is probably calling me down light since I have made him lay down 2 hands already in med/big sized pots.
MP is an unremarkable 32/2/1 over 40 hands and has built his stack vs. UTG by calling 7788 board w/ a T7 when UTG open pushed AK on the turn for $125. He slow played the flop in position w/ the trip 7's & FD.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($58.95)
MP ($263.10)
Button ($100)
Hero ($208.85)
BB ($100)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A .
UTG raises to $3, MP calls $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, UTG calls $12, MP calls $12.
Flop: ($46) 7 , K, J (3 players)
Hero bets $42, UTG raises to $43.95, MP raises to $248.1, Hero calls $151.85 (All-In).
Final Pot: $477.65
How'd I do?
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bode
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i think you have to stick it in here. vs the UTG drooler its totally standard obv, but MP's line is just weird. I guess since his pfr is only 2 that he is doing this call/call thing more than most pre, but its still odd. with the board being super drawy i think your only option is to stick it in here. Youre getting ~2:1, and surely you have >30% vs MP's range here
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Silly String
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In case is matters, I should have added that MP thought for about 10 secs before shoving. I don't think he made it to the time bank, but it certainly wasn't an instashove.
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Fnord
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Yeah, we're playing for stacks here.
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Reagan's Kid
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yea the board is drawy enough and it's entirely possible MP has AK, getting all in here is what u wanna do.
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Galapogos
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Get it in and hope he doesn't have KJ.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Get it in and hope he doesn't have a set.
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would it change much if this flop were a rainbow?
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Get it in and hope he doesn't have a set.
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would it change much if this flop were a rainbow? |
Probably not tbh. I don't see a set why a set wouldn't flat call the shorty's raise. Plus our minimal read that we do have of the guy with a good hand is he's a slowplayer. I'm pretty stubborn with my aces though.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Silly String
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OK, I agree. What if MP flats? Do we have to push over the UTG's tiny raise? I would think so.
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Originally Posted by Silly String
OK, I agree. What if MP flats? Do we have to push over the UTG's tiny raise? I would think so.
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at that point, you cant push over his raise because it wasnt atleast a minraise.
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Yeah, you're stuck calling, and then just push most turns.
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Silly String
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No shit? I've been playing for how long and didn't know the rule on this.
Thanks for all the input so far.
For those who care, the results in white below:
OK so the villain pushed, I called and he flips up 8c9c. A club hits the turn so I'm not thrilled but I hit an A on the river. . . the A of clubs, so I know I'm very likely beat. Oh well. MP took down the $475 pot w/ a 9high flush.
I just wondered if anyone considers laying this down since the passive raised all in and I was pretty deep.
How about my flop bet? I went with a strong bet to "bluff" UTG as I'd been running over him a decent bit. I figured it might widen his calling range, but I wasn't expecting MP to wake up. Would anyone else play this different with a smaller flop bet and consider a fold later?
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Fnord
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You got your money in good and had a bad result. Don't second guess yourself here.
"That's why they call it gambling son"
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TheSyphon
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I think you played well. Their were a ton of hands you could beat.
It's the 9 high flush dude that made a bad play. What was he thinking?
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Silly String
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I don't think his play is bad at all esp. with all that dead money in the middle.
That said, I also don't think he knows that pushing a GSSFD is good vs. AA with dead money. Afterall, he raises 2% of his hands ~ good strat moron.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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