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12-08-2006, 05:51 AM Post subject: AA, deep-stacked, facing RR, play for stacks?

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I put him on KK, QQ, or maybe JJ.
So this is standard right?
Or do I slow down a bit on the turn?

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Table Daytona (6 max)
Seat 1: Speed4all ($380.40 in chips)
Seat 3: ALLIN26 ($241.55 in chips)
Seat 5: MIKA100 ($133.65 in chips)
Seat 6: j0nnyb0y ($348.85 in chips)
Seat 8: FD221975 ($191.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: shtirliz ($208.85 in chips)
shtirliz: Post SB $1.00
Speed4all: Post BB $2.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
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MIKA100: Fold
j0nnyb0y: Raise $8.00
FD221975: Fold
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*** FLOP ***

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Speed4all: Bet $28.00
j0nnyb0y: Raise $75.00
Speed4all: Call $47.00
*** TURN ***

Speed4all: Bet $58.00
j0nnyb0y: Raise $150.00
Speed4all: Call $92.00
*** RIVER ***

Speed4all: Allin $141.40
j0nnyb0y: Allin $109.85

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12-08-2006, 06:37 AM Post subject: Re: AA, deep-stacked, facing RR, play for stacks?

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Or do I slow down a bit on the turn?

No, you push turn. With 175 BB stacks I'd 4-bet pre-flop.

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12-08-2006, 06:50 AM

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That's a sick river for JJ. So sorry.

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12-08-2006, 06:55 AM Post subject: Re: AA, deep-stacked, facing RR, play for stacks?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL

Or do I slow down a bit on the turn?

No, you push turn. With 175 BB stacks I'd 4-bet pre-flop.

Even with 100 BB stacks i'm more likely to 4bet preflop. I've found it so hard lately to get it allin postflop with AA when ahead that 4betting preflop they usually pay through their nose anyway.

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12-08-2006, 07:01 AM

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12-08-2006, 07:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

That's a sick river for JJ. So sorry.

Hehe...
I made it seem like this was a bad beat post, but its not. He showed QQ, and i took the $700 pot.
I just want to know if it is good to play for stacks in this situation?

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No, you push turn. With 175 BB stacks I'd 4-bet pre-flop.

I thought about pushing the turn here...but If he has QQ or KK like he did, couldn't this scare him off?
I was really hoping he had KK or QQ, and I just wanted to know the best way to take his stack.

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12-08-2006, 07:46 AM

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[quote="JL"]

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Originally Posted by Fnord

I thought about pushing the turn here...but If he has QQ or KK like he did, couldn't this scare him off?
I was really hoping he had KK or QQ, and I just wanted to know the best way to take his stack.

Any non-drawing hand that calls your turn raise is commiting themself to calling the rest on the river anyways so you might as well push in case he might actually be drawing or has JJ-KK and suddenly gets cold feet if an over card hits.

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12-08-2006, 01:43 PM

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i push the turn. hes definitly got an overpair, and isnt folding here.

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12-08-2006, 03:16 PM

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This deep I really think you need to be 4betting PF. You really need a read here though because against a lot of solid players this is going to be complete spew as he isnt calling that turn raise with QQ or KK. If he is a fish then I push the turn, if he is a decent player I probably call and try to get to showdown cheap.

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