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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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11-17-2009, 04:23 AM
Post subject: AA 3bet pot two callers facing raise on wet board - 100NL
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Full House
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Villain is 17/12/3, fold to 3b: 100%, fold to flop cbet: 100% over only 62 hands. So far his been a lil bit in the tightish side playing pretty straight forward. The raise was quick, almost instant. Looks like a set/combo draw at worse. I doubt he has a straight here due to reverse implied odds but thats just an assumption I'm making and he might've just called if its "suited".
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) -
saw flop
MP ($145.90)
CO ($135.30)
Button ($15)
Hero (SB) ($117.85)
BB ($20)
UTG ($130.10)
Preflop: Hero is SB with , 
1 fold, MP bets $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, MP calls $11, CO calls $11
Flop: ($43) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $30, 1 fold, CO raises to $77, Hero has $73.85 left.
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zook
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Can't fold. You're probably slightly behind his range but there are enough draws in there that you're getting the right price.
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minSim
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Aren't we a pretty big dog to his range?
With the pot getting like 250, we need about 30% equity, I doubt we have that here.
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nutsinho
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id call a jam but laugh and fold to his dumb raise
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zook
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Originally Posted by minSim
Aren't we a pretty big dog to his range?
With the pot getting like 250, we need about 30% equity, I doubt we have that here.
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I think he has it pretty easy.
Board: Qc Th 9c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.103% 38.64% 00.46% 13006 156.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 60.897% 60.43% 00.46% 20342 156.00 { KK-99, AcKc, AcJc, AcTc, KJs, QJs, JcTc, T9s }
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Alexos
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id call a jam but laugh and fold to his dumb raise
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lol so true
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Originally Posted by zook
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Originally Posted by minSim
Aren't we a pretty big dog to his range?
With the pot getting like 250, we need about 30% equity, I doubt we have that here.
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I think he has it pretty easy.
Board: Qc Th 9c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.103% 38.64% 00.46% 13006 156.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 60.897% 60.43% 00.46% 20342 156.00 { KK-99, AcKc, AcJc, AcTc, KJs, QJs, JcTc, T9s }
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I know we dont have that many hands, but he seems pretty tight. I think you can probably discount the lower broadways pretty hard. KK should probably be discounted too since he didnt 4bet pre and there was another caller before him. Id guess were a fair bit worse off than this stove.
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zook
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plz stove your range
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Originally Posted by Alexos
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id call a jam but laugh and fold to his dumb raise
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lol so true
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so true.. but soo not capable of this in practice.
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zook
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pelion? ok, I'll do it for you. as small a range as I can give him and you're still getting the right price on a shove.
Board: Qc Th 9c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.788% 30.15% 00.64% 4477 95.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 69.212% 68.57% 00.64% 10183 95.00 { QQ-99 }
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minSim
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Those jacks you put in there are very important. I'd think jacks (or any combohand with a J in it) are more likely to just shove instead of this small raise.
Board: Qc Th 9c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 14.132% 13.33% 00.80% 1452 87.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 85.868% 85.07% 00.80% 9264 87.00 { QQ, TT-99, T9s }
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zook
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lol
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lol
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I wasn't trying to be funny, but I might be, was I?
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zook
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I find taking JJ out of his range b/c of raise size funny. I wish I were that good.
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sniderstyle
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Would anyone check this flop and try garner more information before deciding to stack off ?
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Originally Posted by sniderstyle
Would anyone check this flop and try garner more information before deciding to stack off ?
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wtf, no
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Marshall28
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check the flop, obv
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Marshall28
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I wouldn't check it for information, I would just think that if one of them has a hand like JJ/AQ/KQ that they likely won't shove over your c-bet, but if you check, those hands are going to bet and commit themselves to the pot, then you can get your money in. It's way better than betting out and only getting it in against worse--that is, if you are always calling a shove when you do bet out.
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