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dsmrolla06
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05-25-2007, 07:49 AM
Post subject: 87s in blind battle
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Full House
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Location: South Bend IN
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Villain has stolen my blinds the last 4-5 orbits has a att to steal of 36%. His stats over 135 hands are 31/15.5/9.3 (his AF was actualy 15 when on my HUD when i was making this decision).
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($97.85)
MP ($108.50)
Button ($124.10)
SB ($102.85)
Hero ($117.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 , 7.
3 folds, SB raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $11, SB calls $7.
Flop: ($21.50) T, T , 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB raises to $92.85 (All-In), Hero ??
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pantherhound
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I sometimes take the free card here.
As played you've got to fold.
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stuck
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Flush
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even a naked A may be enough to make this call, but your particular hand has no showdown value UI. I wouldn't mind if you were pushing, but you can't call this push with that hand.
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If I had a hammer
I'd drop in the morning
I'd drop in the evening..
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
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i dont call this. Taking the free card is the best option here so you dont get stuck in these situations, especially on a paired board where villain can bluff easier.
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sauce123
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4-of-a-Kind
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lol pot odds
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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It's like 77 to win 130
if he's making a play that's more than enough. If he has an overpair it's a marginally bad call.
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Harry
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Full House
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Just calculate pot odds.
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dsmrolla06
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Full House
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I ran it through pokerstove the other day, i was getting 1.51:1 odds to call and against AK, and any pair excluding TT i had 1.7 equity or so.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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So worst case scenario you are a is not even a 2:1 dog? I think calling is correctomundo.
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dsmrolla06
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Full House
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Ya if hes doing this with AJ+ and any pocket pair, essentially just putting a move on my then i was getting about 1.4 equity with 1.51:1 odds making a call correct. I guess its just a matter of whether he would make a move on me here, and my initial reaction was that he could have been.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Well, worst case scenario is he has AdKd and you have 6 outs and he has a big redraw.
I think he might bet/3bet with that hand and not c/bomb it all in.
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: UK
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Surely his high AF has nothing much to do with this hand because we have 8 high?
So therefore it's a simple pstove.
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sauce123
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4-of-a-Kind
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i hate folding so i might call here but this looks like a fold- one of his most likely hands is a higher flush draw
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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ShowMeAtlas
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Flush
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Maybe it's just me but I much prefer calling preflop and floating the flop in these situations. I think that makes it easier to put your opponent to a tough decision unlike here where he has totally outplayed us
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biondino
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I am folding sooo quickly here. Nice try, ul, move on. Pwn him next time.
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sauce123
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4-of-a-Kind
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calculate ur pot odds and calculate how much u wanna call
if desire> five hundreth of bankroll easy call
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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c-luvin
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Straight
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Originally Posted by sauce123
calculate ur pot odds and calculate how much u wanna call
if desire> five hundreth of bankroll easy call
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mcatdog
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4-of-a-Kind
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I'd probably just check back on the flop because
-he's a good aggro player who will be pushing or folding in response to your flop bet
-he probably has something pretty good to call your re-raise out of position
-he won't give you credit for the flush if you check the flop
Bet this flop for sure against shittier players who are calling your re-raise with tons of crap and are giving up most of the time on the flop, and if they don't give up they'll just float you out of position.
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