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JL
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10-27-2008, 04:52 AM
Post subject: 75s BTN vs BB Donkey
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Villain is a terrible. Stats = 52/12/1
My only note on him says that he will call the flop with any pair.
My thoughts at the time of this hand were that he bluffs this spot a ton and the only hand that I can put him on was some turned or rivered two pair or maybe a slowplayed set/straight.
Thoughts?
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
CO ($893.80)
Hero ($398.00)
SB ($102.00)
BB ($276.40)
Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is BTN  
1 fold, Hero bets $14, 1 fold, BB calls $10
Flop:    ($30, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls $22
Turn:  ($74, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River:  ($74, 2 players)
BB bets $55, Hero calls $55
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will641
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4-of-a-Kind
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kind of odd that he types it in. i think its pretty close because if he isnt slow playing he isnt betting a 6 or better 5. its either missed draw/ nuts. i could see him calling the flop with like K high or whatever too, but i think thats unlikely enough that it shouldnt be too big a factor. on the other hand he is really passive so idk. what was the timing like?
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Meh, I started leaking less money when I stopped calling in this spot. You're read seems a little too vague to be making this call.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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will641
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Meh, I started leaking less money when I stopped calling in this spot. You're read seems a little too vague to be making this call.
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yeah youre probably right. fold.
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
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nutsinho
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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I CALL!!
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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KTo ftw imo
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Fnord
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Moderator
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I think it's close.
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BigPapi
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
Posts: 437
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I would rather bet turn for 55 myself and check behind river if possible. Even though if we have the king we wouldnt necessarily bet turn, I think against this opponent he wouldnt notice that.
as played I'm leaning towards a call.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
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Yah I agree with bigpapi. I don't think our 5x is good enough in this spot,as he can have all midpairs in his range too. I'd prefer to triple barrel this board, and definitely double this turn and get him off better hands.
As played...I'd probably call or fold based on the timing/feel. Its a pretty close spot.
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nutsinho
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4-of-a-Kind
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I'm not sure I understand why this is close at all. If I had to pick two cards that did not improve my hand to fall on the turn and river that would make me absolutely confident that calling this river bet is profitable, they would be a nonspade King and a nonspade Queen. I don't like talking about "leaking less money in these spots" when THIS particular spot is as good a spot for a 4th pair call as there can possibly be.
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