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Old 09-29-2009, 10:45 PM     Post subject: 74s OTB in 3bet pot, you'll see #1 (permalink)  
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CO-Villain and I are developing a rapor mainly via me 3betting him and he has finally 4bet me back once. PTR says he's a little fishy like +0.25BB/100 and has played much higher stakes and loses @ 2/4 & 3/6. He's running 25/21/5 w/CO steal at 33%. He built his stack doubling through a set with a turned flush when the set CRAI the turn.
SB(3bettor) is a total fish monger. 58/30/10 This is his 2nd 3bet in his 15 hands.
I'm playing pretty TAG #'s with my flare for the occasional creative spew, but I've been pounding villain's CO raises fairly often.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($158.80)
MP ($183.45)
CO ($201.50)
Hero (Button) ($117.50)
SB ($59.50)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 4
2 folds, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4, SB raises $8.50, 1 fold, CO calls $5, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($28) 4, 6, 10 (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $18, 1 fold, CO calls $18

Turn: ($64) K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $38, CO raises $174.50 (All-In), Hero calls.

Standard?
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Standard except from 1.st preflop call (i would 3-bet or fold) and maybe a bit small betsizing on turn.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'm not really sure what the question is?

standard? preflop obviously not.. and postflop... obv..?
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:53 AM #4 (permalink)  
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fold pre, everything else looks good, and it's rapport
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:47 PM #5 (permalink)  
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OK, I guess worse is CRing the turn, but I guess just after I felt like "Who would CR that turn that didn't hit the flush?" Especially after flatting the small 3bet. I guess Ah+pair+gutter or sets.
Thanks guys. Sorry if this we too Obv., but I just wondered if the turn would be a tough fold spot.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:52 PM #6 (permalink)  
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OK, I guess worse is CRing the turn, but I guess just after I felt like "Who would CR that turn that didn't hit the flush?" Especially after flatting the small 3bet. I guess Ah+pair+gutter or sets.
Thanks guys. Sorry if this we too Obv., but I just wondered if the turn would be a tough fold spot.
It's not a tough spot, partly because its a 3bet pot with a flush. But also because you bet on the flop from the button when checked to which gives you a very wide range and presumably you get to the turn with lots of meh air and the flush card might be a perfect card for you to continue bluffing.

The fact that CO might bet or c/r a FD on the flop prob makes it an even easier turn bet from hero's perspective, since he probably doesn't have thaat many flushes as played, so its a decent bluffing card, especially considering its the K.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:56 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Wow, I've been here a long time and jeez I still have so much to learn. It is amazing I'm a winning player. Thanks Grif.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:06 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Wow, I've been here a long time and jeez I still have so much to learn. It is amazing I'm a winning player. Thanks Grif.
I mean, I can't imagine what flushes he would have here, even though you clearly got flush over flushed here

I guess he has AQhh or AJhh and was c/c flop for value. I'd imagine most lower flushes would lead the flop.
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