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elipsesjeff

09-21-2006, 09:56 PM Post subject: 67s, ass end of straight +FD

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Standard? Villain is 72/16.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($109.95)
MP ($20.57)
Hero ($206.55)
Button ($602.38)
SB ($134.48)
BB ($192.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

, 6

. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, Button calls $10, 2 folds, UTG folds.

Flop: ($25) 9

, T

, J

(2 players)
Hero bets $17, Button calls $17.

Turn: ($59) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $38.41, Hero calls $38.41.

River: ($135.82) 5

(2 players)
Hero calls $141.14 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $276.96

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dsaxton

09-22-2006, 05:21 AM

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Give up on the flop. This flop connects with too many hands that the button will call a raise with. Plus he's a calling station.

Robert

09-22-2006, 08:39 AM

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jeff,

As played turn and river are obviously fine (though I might valuebet the river ½ pot instead against tighter players, but against a donk its fine). But like dsaxton pointed out, cbetting this flop OOP against such a loose player will loose you money. Just c/f flop.

elipsesjeff

09-23-2006, 07:37 AM

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Does anyone think that check/folding this flop gives up too much information?

There's got to be ONE other guy out there who c-bets his hand, I just can't find any good reason too either. Although, the main purpose of this post was the turn/river play, but I guess we can delve into the flop.

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alias2211

09-23-2006, 08:51 AM

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jeff: don't check fold flop. i can understand how you got to the turn: you made a good PF raise, then he smooth calls the button, you cbet and that is fine. but if villain is 72/16, he probably does a fair amount of floating, so keep that in mind. if he's betting tons of turns after an OOP check by you, then you have to play to the river w/ marginal hands sometimes or he'll eat you alive w/ air. the way you positioned yourself very well by the time the river rolled around gives you such a better spot. that $40 bet was crucial to set that up, and it seems that if you lead for $40 then he can just raise you allin. so check/call because if he ends up giving you a free card, hey, free card. instead, you are OOP on the river w/ as much behind as is in the pot already and you put the tough decisions to him, hand or no hand since there is also ample room to run a line on him here w/ a bluff of your own. pushing is probably mandatory on the river as played.

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