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Old 03-08-2006, 06:07 AM     Post subject: 5k checkup and HH's #1 (permalink)  
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Dabbling in 6max after lots of full ring and MTT's. Here are my stats after 5k hands (over a couple weeks) at 50NL, as well as 5 HH's for review. WR is holding up well, even after a bad night last night. I want to go to 20k hands before moving up, as I might be running a bit hot right now. Any observations?

VPIP: 36.36%
PFR: 15.23%
W$WSF: 35.98%
Att to steal blinds: 33.79%
WTSD: 21.25%
W$SD: 51.35%
BB/100: 18.58

Aggr Pfl: .65
Aggr Flp: 4.59
Agg Trn: 5.20
Agg Riv: 2.83
Agg TOTAL: 1.42

Hand 1: Semi-tight passive, but willing to call me down with A high.
Game #1800479763: Hold'em NL (£0.25/£0.50) - 2006/03/08 - 01:10:14 (ET)
Table "Lullaby" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: tubandzit (£84.24 in chips)
Seat 2: Devlin005 sits out
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (£121.16 in chips)
Seat 4: Kinney (£67.37 in chips)
Seat 5: dingen1 (£54.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Chopp11 (£22.94 in chips)
Kinney: posts small blind £0.25
dingen1: posts big blind £0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ChicagoKid [Jd 9d]
Chopp11: calls £0.50
tubandzit: folds
ChicagoKid: calls £0.50
Kinney: calls £0.25
dingen1: checks
----- FLOP ----- [8s 6s 7d]
Kinney: checks
dingen1: checks
Chopp11: checks
ChicagoKid: bets £2.50
Kinney: folds
dingen1: calls £2.50
Chopp11: folds
----- TURN ----- [8s 6s 7d][9h]
dingen1: checks
ChicagoKid: checks
----- RIVER ----- [8s 6s 7d 9h][Ks]
dingen1: bets £1.50
ChicagoKid: calls £1.50
----- SHOW DOWN -----
dingen1: shows [5d 5h] (A Straight, Nine high)
ChicagoKid: mucks hand [Jd 9d]
dingen1 collects £9.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £10 Main pot £9.50 Rake £0.50
Board [8s 6s 7d 9h Ks]
Seat 1: tubandzit folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (button) mucked [Jd 9d]
Seat 4: Kinney (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: dingen1 (big blind) showed [5d 5h] and won (£9.50) with A Straight, Nine high
Seat 6: Chopp11 folded on the Flop
****HAND ENDS****

Hand 2: Total maniac who I put on tilt...took his stack 2x over tonight
Game #1800439603: Hold'em NL (£0.25/£0.50) - 2006/03/08 - 00:52:53 (ET)
Table "Lullaby" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: tubandzit (£73.14 in chips)
Seat 2: Devlin005 (£38.38 in chips)
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (£90.01 in chips)
Seat 4: Kinney (£95.06 in chips)
Seat 5: 5kopper18 (£14.59 in chips)
Seat 6: Chopp11 (£23.34 in chips)
Kinney: posts small blind £0.25
5kopper18: posts big blind £0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ChicagoKid [6c 8c]
Chopp11: folds
tubandzit: calls £0.50
Devlin005: raises to £1
ChicagoKid: calls £1
Kinney: calls £0.75
5kopper18: calls £0.50
tubandzit: calls £0.50
----- FLOP ----- [6h 3c 2d]
Kinney: checks
5kopper18: checks
tubandzit: checks
Devlin005: checks
ChicagoKid: bets £2
Kinney: folds
5kopper18: folds
tubandzit: folds
Devlin005: calls £2
----- TURN ----- [6h 3c 2d][9c]
Devlin005: checks
ChicagoKid: bets £4
Devlin005: raises to £11.50
ChicagoKid: calls £7.50
----- RIVER ----- [6h 3c 2d 9c][5h]
Devlin005: checks
ChicagoKid: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Devlin005: shows [Jh 8s] (High Card Jack)
ChicagoKid: shows [6c 8c] (A Pair of Sixes, Nine high)
ChicagoKid collects £30.40 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £32 Main pot £30.40 Rake £1.60
Board [6h 3c 2d 9c 5h]
Seat 1: tubandzit folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Devlin005 showed [Jh 8s] and lost
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (button) showed [6c 8c] and won (£30.40) with A Pair of Sixes, Nine high
Seat 4: Kinney (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 5kopper18 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Chopp11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
****HAND ENDS****

Hand 3: "3" spewed chips all night, and Moeom was a lag...
Game #1800250023: Hold'em NL (£0.25/£0.50) - 2006/03/07 - 23:44:28 (ET)
Table "Lullaby" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: MoEoM (£48.45 in chips)
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (£42.95 in chips)
Seat 4: All_4_one (£58.24 in chips)
Seat 5: 3_ranger (£82.67 in chips)
Seat 6: webbstar (£24.50 in chips)
All_4_one: posts small blind £0.25
3_ranger: posts big blind £0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ChicagoKid [Tc Th]
webbstar: folds
MoEoM: calls £0.50
ChicagoKid: raises to £2.50
All_4_one: folds
3_ranger: calls £2
MoEoM: calls £2
----- FLOP ----- [9s 2h 3c]
3_ranger: checks
MoEoM: checks
All_4_one leaves the table
ChicagoKid: bets £4
3_ranger: calls £4
MoEoM: calls £4
----- TURN ----- [9s 2h 3c][Ah]
3_ranger: checks
MoEoM: checks
ChicagoKid: bets £10
3_ranger: folds
MoEoM: folds
Returned uncalled bets £10 to ChicagoKid
ChicagoKid: doesn't show hand
ChicagoKid collects £18.80 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £19.75 Main pot £18.80 Rake £0.95
Board [9s 2h 3c Ah]
Seat 1: MoEoM folded on the Turn
Seat 3: ChicagoKid (button) collected £18.80
Seat 5: 3_ranger (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: webbstar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
****HAND ENDS****

Hand 4: Viking=LAP...would play along with rags a bit...
** Game ID 712750469 starting - 2006-03-08 00:20:59
** Fribourg [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- ExitDarko sitting in seat 1 with $49.25
- nerichardson sitting in seat 3 with $15.95
- ChicagoKid sitting in seat 4 with $61.22
- 06-viking sitting in seat 5 with $26.78
- Southy24 sitting in seat 6 with $8.25 [Dealer]

ExitDarko posted the small blind - $0.25
nerichardson posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to DaChicagoKid: Queen of Hearts, Ace of Spades
ChicagoKid raised - $3.00
06-viking called - $3.00
Southy24 folded
ExitDarko folded
nerichardson folded

** Dealing the flop: 3 of Spades, Jack of Clubs, 10 of Hearts
ChicagoKid bet - $2.00
06-viking called - $2.00

** Dealing the turn: 5 of Hearts
ChicagoKid bet - $6.00
06-viking called - $6.00

** Dealing the river: 4 of Spades
ChicagoKid checked
06-viking checked
ChicagoKid shows: Queen of Hearts, Ace of Spades
06-viking shows: 10 of Diamonds, 7 of Diamonds
06-viking wins $21.65 from the main pot

Hand 5: No real read...raise more on flop?
Game #1727027603: Hold'em NL (£0.25/£0.50) - 2006/03/01 - 22:04:27 (ET)
Table "Navi" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: ChicagoKid (£209.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Undataker (£39.15 in chips)
Seat 3: acad21 (£36.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Lunch=Fun (£60.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Jami13033 (£24.85 in chips)
Undataker: posts small blind £0.25
acad21: posts big blind £0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ChicagoKid [9d Kd]
Lunch=Fun: folds
Jami13033: folds
ChicagoKid: raises to £1
Undataker: folds
acad21: calls £0.50
----- FLOP ----- [9s 2d 4h]
acad21: bets £1
ChicagoKid: raises to £2
acad21: calls £1
----- TURN ----- [9s 2d 4h][8c]
acad21: bets £2.50
ChicagoKid: calls £2.50
----- RIVER ----- [9s 2d 4h 8c][As]
acad21: bets £5
ChicagoKid: folds
Returned uncalled bets £5 to acad21
acad21: doesn't show hand
acad21 collects £10.70 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £11.25 Main pot £10.70 Rake £0.55
Board [9s 2d 4h 8c As]
Seat 1: ChicagoKid (button) folded on the River
Seat 2: Undataker (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: acad21 (big blind) collected £10.70
Seat 4: Lunch=Fun folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Jami13033 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
****HAND ENDS****
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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BB/100: 18.58

You are running amazingly.
 
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Old 03-08-2006, 01:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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How much stock are people putting on all these stats in 6max...besides BB/100? I've been whoring since Feb. 01 on B2Bs and a couple other sites and don't even bother with PT. When I played full ring on Party skins I used PT and PAce religiously and would check my stats constantly. Now I just play poker and focus on whether I'm playing well and profiting or not. I throw VP$IP out the window in 6max because I don't see any number being wrong. You have to play according to your opponents and/or make them play according to you. It's not a problem that you posted them. I keep seeing people post these stats and hope they don't get hung up on certain ones.

Hope you didn't jinx yourselft by posting your stats Kid It seems many people moving to 6max start off with a bang - probably because they start off tight since it's a new game. Then they open up a little, bluff a little more, steal a little more and BOOM! When that happens - don't sweat it or let it crush your confidence. Just focus on playing well.

So far so good though. Hands look fine. There will be sessions where you lose every freaking one of these, but it looks like you are controlling pot sizes enough that it won't hurt too much.
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Old 03-08-2006, 04:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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you are playing really loose.

i don't bet the turn on the TT hand when the ace because i don't think he is drawing, but i would bet river if checked to.

i would raise more with K9s on the 9 high flop.
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Yeah you look like you are playing very loose according to your PT stats. I think your VP$IP% should be no more than 30 at a relatively low limit like 50NL. My VP$IP% is something like 18 at PP, although it's around 30 or so at UB, just because I play so different at PP.

Hand 1: I would raise preflop to isolate on the limper with J9s. It's a strong drawing hand and it's always good to be the aggressor in position. I would not limp here very often unless the whole table limped to me and which case I would limp. But by not raising here you don't really have any information on anybody's hand and the blinds could have anything. I wouldn't bet this flop since it's a very attractive flop for a lot of hands our opponents could be holding.

Hand 2: The preflop call was kind of iffy, but a call I sometimes make if I think I'll get paid off if I hit. If you're going to bet this flop I would make it a larger bet of around 4-5. If called I would check the turn unless I turned trips or two pair, and I still check when the turn gives me a flush draw to keep the pot small and to peel off a free card.

Hand 3: Betting the flop is good, but I check behind on the turn when the Ace hits, and like Gabe said, possibly bet on the end if they check to you.

Hand 4: Bet more on that flop, and maybe fire a second shell, but bet bigger on each street to make the mediocre hands drop out.

Hand 5: Don't raise minimum preflop ever, aside from that raise bigger on that flop. As played I call that small river bet.
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My VPIP is around 27% at party and I feel that I'm quite loose. Just realize you're playing a high variance strategy and your BB/100 WILL drop.
 
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people overrate playing LAG. they think its cool and so much more profitable.

the fact is that if you play tighter, your bb/100 isn't going to be that much lower, you will have less variance, and you will be able to play more tables, meaning higher hourly rate
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I also believe I could probably be making more an hour on the tables I play now, 100NL, playing tighter and more tables. Once I got used to playing tight. But I don't want to do that, I'd rather have a higher PTBB/100 at two tables and a slightly lower income an hour. What matters to me is improving my game so I can beat higher stakes soon and earn more that way.

I've noticed that I've gotten much better at poker in general after switching from 4 to 2 tables and from full ring to 6 max. Playing loose reading your oponents, figuring out what they have, if your kicker is good, if they are weak and might fold, etc. etc. becomes very important. For me this makes me focus more and I feel my game is improving cause of it. I'm also having much more fun when playing. But each player has to find out what works best for him of course, even though I'm pretty sure LAG is the most profitable way to play not taking multitabling into consideration.
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Thanks all, for the comments. I figured that I was running a bit hot right now.

To explain my high VPIP, I usually hunt for TAP tables, and look to take control. If I find a table with another couple LAGs, I will often leave as not to have to fight them off. So, my VPIP is high such that I sneak into every pot I can and look to hit hands that beat others who cannot fold, or just take pots away from those who cannot call big bets postflop. I also lean on people until they crack or start playing back at me.

However, I will admit that at times I call raises with connectors, or suited one-gappers and look to get lucky against a second best, and things are working out ok thus far (knock on wood).

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I have a different style and approach, i run at 22/6 and look for the juiciest tables, finding the XLs (over 63 VPIPs) and look to get in pots with them and rape them. I look for tables with at least 1 or 2 big losers, like XLs, CSs and SMs (i use andy mcnish's / excessions 6max rules).

r8 i use pahud and datamine if poss so to me stats are really important
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