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Old 08-22-2008, 08:28 AM     Post subject: 55 c/r allin turn 3bet pot 100nl #1 (permalink)  
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POSTED AS HISTORY TO 55 HAND. Opp in BB here was total unknown. But BTN steals alot on BTN. BTN is 22/14.

I could also probably just c/f flop vs unknown. I was pretty certain of his range after he called flop, i guess i feel i kinda chickened out of trying to push QQ and JJ out but i also thought with no reads at all its best to let him have it.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG mx5184 ($11.50)
UTG+1 diabolo54 ($184.00)
CO NUMISOLI ($133.35)
BTN gg_badgone ($119.40)
SB Hero ($98.00)
BB estban ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, gg_badgone raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12.50, estban calls $11.50, gg_badgone folds

Flop: ($28.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, estban calls $16

Turn: ($60.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, estban checks

River: ($60.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, estban checks

Final Pot: $60.50
estban shows:
Hero shows:

estban wins $57.50 ( won +$29 )
gg_badgone lost -$3.50
Hero lost -$28.50


22/14 opp. only history is the 53s ive posted a reference which went to SD. opp steals alot but i shud of just called preflop given history.

Hows my line? I figure since last hand went to SD in the 2nd last orbit my 53s is fresh in his mind. So i beleived he will float here a huge range.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG mx5184 ($10.00)
UTG+1 AquaSheep ($98.50)
CO NUMISOLI ($171.80)
BTN gg_badgone ($124.10)
SB Hero ($99.00)
BB estban ($108.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, gg_badgone raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12.50, 1 fold, gg_badgone calls $9

Flop: ($26, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, gg_badgone calls $16

Turn: ($58, 2 players)
Hero checks, gg_badgone bets $29, Hero raises to $70.50

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Old 08-22-2008, 02:13 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With your history, I don't like it. I think you're getting looked up even lighter on a monotone board.
His flop call could be an A with no club, but his turn bet size puzzles me.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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well note that in first hand i gave up after c/b so im really not that bluffy looking.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:42 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I also see he checked behind turn/riv with JJ in that hand, so he is unlikely to be betting the turn in the 2nd hand with any marginal hand with showdown value. Those are the majority of the hands we would be trying to move him off of.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:51 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i dont think you noticed that the opp in the second hand is the guy on BTN in the first. the first hand went to SD so everyone saw it.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You're right, I didn't notice. I thought villain was the same in both hands despite your attempt to make it obvious with villain names. My bad.
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 You should be beating his range on the turn, but like you and I discussed you're like at best a 55/45 favorite against it
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:39 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Do you really think we are beating his range when we are clubless? What range do you have for villain?
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:54 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 Commenting on any of these hands in isolation is kind of hard.

But really, when you're going to make a bluff I think you should focus more on your equity vs villain's calling range than your current equity vs what he might have at the moment.

You're far better off doing something like this with Kc2s than 55 here, cause when he has air both of these hands are gonna get folds the same amount, but when you're called your equity is far better with the Kc2s.

(you probably need better reads to do this with 55, as in: you know he'll call you with a bare club and no pair here or something)
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:14 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 in all likelihood he's value-shoving guys, albeit very very thinly.
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