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johnny_fish
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05-26-2006, 06:46 PM
Post subject: 55 blind battle
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Just sat down, Villain is unknown. Did I maximize value?
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2.00/$4.00
5 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $146.68
CO: $572.90
Button: $489.80
SB: $349.60
Hero: $396.00
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 5
3 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls.
Flop: 9 7 3 ($26, 2 players)
SB bets $32, Hero calls.
Turn: 5 ($90, 2 players)
SB bets $64, Hero calls.
River: 8 ($218, 2 players)
SB bets $140, Hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $498
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r8ed
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Not bad since I think if you raise him on the turn he's folding. I think you should min-raise him on the river just to mess with him if you are confident he didn't hit a straight or flush -which seems highly unlikely. He would look and feel like a moron whether he calls or folds.
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LimpinAintEZ
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this seems like one of those situations everyone on here talks about where you just let a worse hand keep bluffing into you - if you raise turn you might not get that extra $140 bet on river - I think you maximized it well. Can I ask you why you didn't raise the river? Is the 3 diamonds (despite being runner runner) and a possible straight (again, runner runner) put a scare into you? did you think you might be beat on river?
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johnny_fish
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Originally Posted by r8ed
I think you should min-raise him on the river just to mess with him if you are confident he will call without a straight or flush
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dsaxton
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Raising the river is terrible. Seems good on all streets.
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gabe
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RAISE THE TURN
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aislephive
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I'm usually raising the turn, bu as played nice hand.
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zenbitz
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Anyone re-raise pre-flop here?
I agree with Gabe, raise turn. He could have picked up a draw, might as well make him pay for it.
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bdawg56kg
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With no read I'd make a big raise on the turn, but if I had a read that this guy is capable of 3-barrelling it, then I like your line.
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johnny_fish
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Originally Posted by gabe
RAISE THE TURN
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I was waiting for that 
River was a crying call; T6o took the pot..
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Irisheyes
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I think I reraise PF. I don't wan't to play 55 post flop without the continuation inititive.
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Lukie
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Not bad since I think if you raise him on the turn he's folding. I think you should min-raise him on the river just to mess with him if you are confident he didn't hit a straight or flush -which seems highly unlikely. He would look and feel like a moron whether he calls or folds.
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this seems like one of those situations everyone on here talks about where you just let a worse hand keep bluffing into you - if you raise turn you might not get that extra $140 bet on river - I think you maximized it well. Can I ask you why you didn't raise the river? Is the 3 diamonds (despite being runner runner) and a possible straight (again, runner runner) put a scare into you? did you think you might be beat on river?
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stop trying to make people dumber, both of you
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CavemanWins
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QUESTION:
I normally fold on the flop with a small pocket pair that didn't make a set. Is this a normal line for the rest of you? i.e. to call a flop bet hoping to hit your set on the Turn?
My normal line is to Set or fold with asmall pp.
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Robert
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I raise the turn because opp could hold any two and easily be on a draw.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by CavemanWins
QUESTION:
I normally fold on the flop with a small pocket pair that didn't make a set. Is this a normal line for the rest of you? i.e. to call a flop bet hoping to hit your set on the Turn?
My normal line is to Set or fold with asmall pp.
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Set or fold is the normal line yes.
This hand is different though because it only involves the SB and BB. When only the blinds are involved like this there is less chance of either person having a real hand and a higher chance that they are trying to bluff each other. Thus, the value of an actual hand, like 55 mediocre as it is, goes up.
Hero called the flop, not because he was looking to set on the turn, but because he didn't believe that the villan had made a pair on the flop, (I presume).
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