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50NL - Value betting, 6 hands
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swiggidy
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11-07-2006, 09:26 PM
Post subject: 50NL - Value betting, 6 hands
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Any thoughts appreciated.
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter
Hand 1 - I don't usually complete here, was a passive table
Stack sizes:
UTG: $53.30
UTG+1: $49.25
CO: $35.60
Button: $30.70
Hero: $49.25
BB: $37.95
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 7 K
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.
Flop: 3 Q K ($2.5, 5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
Turn: 5 ($5.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.
River: K ($5.5, 3 players)
Hero bets $4, ...
Flop, I don't want to start building a pot. If I get raised I basically have to toss my hand. That seems dumb with TP, often I check-raise, didn't feel like it this time.
Hand 2 - eh?
Stack sizes:
UTG: $48.10
UTG+1: $64.65
CO: $14
Button: $18.90
SB: $67.75
Hero: $60.90
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 7 7
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB raises to $2.5, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, Button calls.
Flop: 6 T T ($8, 3 players)
SB bets $6.5, Hero raises to $15, ...
I think SB is full of shit and has overs. My raise is small, but it's just the size to put CO all-in, thought that made it look scarier.
Hand 3 - Please don't hurt me too bad on this hand. SB is a calling station. BB is 65/15/1.5, not enough hands to gauge how he deals with post-flop agression
SB ($51.40)
BB ($90.05)
UTG ($55.45)
MP ($58.60)
CO ($28.10)
Hero ($49.25)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 2 , 2 .
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB raises to $2.5, MP folds, Hero calls $2, SB calls $2.
Flop: ($8) 9 , 8 , 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3.5, Hero calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50.
Turn: ($18.50) T (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $5.5, Hero calls $5.50, SB calls $5.50.
River: ($35) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4, Hero calls $4,
Flop, I thought I'd give SB chance to stick around since I have position and all.
Turn I'm not so much afraid of the srtaight, as thinking I'm wa/wb and the straight possibility will get most worse hands to fold.
River, I have no idea...
Hand 4 - UTG and MP are SB and BB from previous hand (this is a couple orbits later)
UTG ($51.75)
MP ($33.95)
CO ($56.55)
Button ($47.10)
SB ($64.40)
Hero ($70.95)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T , K .
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($2.50) A , 2 , K (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Button folds, SB folds.
Turn: ($8.50) K (3 players)
Hero ...
Hand 5 - 3 way, I'm shutting down on this flop
SB ($32.90)
BB ($10.75)
UTG ($18.90)
Hero ($116.45)
CO ($49.95)
Button ($49.35)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J , A .
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, CO calls $2.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2.
Flop: ($10.25) 6 , Q , 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.
Turn: ($10.25) 3 (4 players)
BB bets $1, UTG folds, Hero calls $1, CO calls $1.
River: ($13.25) J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10,
Turn, I have the odds. River bet how much?
Hand 6 - villain 24/12, passive post-flop
UTG ($24.25)
Hero ($54.05)
CO ($51.55)
Button ($75.30)
SB ($60.40)
BB ($76)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J , T .
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checks.
Flop: ($1.75) 3 , 8 , 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($1.75) 9 (3 players)
BB bets $1, UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $12,
Amount good?
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benny999
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generally I play these a lot more straight up when opponents are passive.
1 - seems good, but I would probably bet just a little under 4 on the river. someone has a Q I'd think, and can't expect a missed draw to bet
2- I respect SB raises more and would fold or call the flop, especially 3way and without a good read...risk/reward not good imo to turn ur hand into a bluff.
3- slowplaying against call stations...noooooo. I like to raise pf (if nothing else at least it builds a pot), raise flop, all in either on turn or set up all in on river
4- flop seems ok but I'd rather just check/call in loose passive multiway, turn I lead again 1/2-2/3 vs call stations.
5- I would psb their
6- maybe raise pf. I would raise turn to $18 while he still likes his hand to set up all in on the turn or river.
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pgil
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in the last hand, when BB 3-bets you on this flop, why not call and let him bet again on the turn. you have position on him, use it. unless you want to get all the money in now before anything comes along to scare him. if that is the case, then raise may be a bit small, as I would want his next bet to be all in, or at least commit him to be AI
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ThelVlaster
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Originally Posted by pgil
in the last hand, when BB 3-bets you on this flop, why not call and let him bet again on the turn. you have position on him, use it. unless you want to get all the money in now before anything comes along to scare him. if that is the case, then raise may be a bit small, as I would want his next bet to be all in, or at least commit him to be AI
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I think you are talking about the turn - there was no action on the flop.
I'm guessing he folded to the 4-bet, but I think it is a good amount.
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