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02-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Post subject: 50nl turn c/r river bluff
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 515
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fairly new to HU, looking for general feedback. thx
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed)
weak passive (BB) ($45.56)
Hero (SB) ($55.80)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 , K
Hero bets $1, weak passive calls $0.75
Flop: ($2.50) 9 , Q , 6 (2 players)
weak passive checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($2.50) J (2 players)
weak passive bets $1.87, Hero raises $4.99, weak passive calls $3.12
River: ($12.48) 5 (2 players)
weak passive checks, Hero bets $9.36
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Smeags
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Liverpool
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I too am trying to brush up on my HU play. But heres my thoughts...
what are you trying to represent with the river bet? If I was the other guy, I wouldnt know what to put you on. I'd be calling because the way you've been betting doesnt make sense and doesnt represent anything.
Also, I wouldve bet the flop after the PF raise.
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Originally Posted by Smeags
I too am trying to brush up on my HU play. But heres my thoughts...
what are you trying to represent with the river bet? If I was the other guy, I wouldnt know what to put you on. I'd be calling because the way you've been betting doesnt make sense and doesnt represent anything.
Also, I wouldve bet the flop after the PF raise.
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i suppose i'm repping a straight with either T8 or KT and maybe QJ for two pair as I'd sometimes (though rarely) check the flop for deception.
as for cbetting I just felt that I was never getting better to fold and I'm ahead of most of his air. Also most hands that are c/c the flop are probably not folding the Turn which I think I'd have to dbl barrel often. Also - and maybe this is too advanced in the context of this hand - but doesn't checking the flop widen his bluffing range on the Turn?
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,131
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I wouldn't minraise the button if you don't know why you're doing it. It's gonna be bad to do that vs this guy as he's likely to play too many hands oop so we should make it at least 3x to build bigger pots since we're gonna win more often in position than he is. As played just fold turn, your trying to rep hands he's not even thinking about. He's playing his hand only and isn't likely to fold often enough to make this good. Especially when he's likely to have all the hands that your repping.
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Flush
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Originally Posted by meeloche
I wouldn't minraise the button if you don't know why you're doing it.
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maybe this wasn't quite the right adjustment to make but I started doing this because he was folding a LOT pf OOP, even to these minraises. He was also rarely 3betting.
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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So he's not a loose passive?
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al yell
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by meeloche
So he's not a loose passive?
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Not terribly loose, no. Not raising draws, playing his made hands fast. Pretty straight forward which would indicate that his b/c on Turn is almost always weak.
So fairly tight passive, unsophisticated first level player. Playing him was actually quite a grind because it was next to impossible to extract. At least that was my impression about 40 hands into the match.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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This hand is actually very well played for the most part as a bluff. Opp is unlikely to flat nut hands on the turn so his river range is not that strong to want to call a big bet. I'd bet more on the river, 11.50 or even overbet.
However, I think the turn raise which is key to this bluff is probably bad. If he's passive he is probably not leading out here with a thin range. He also is straightforward and likely not c/r his super nut hands here on the turn. If he led the turn thin and was check raising his nut hands than I think this would be very good.
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