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eragotte
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02-12-2010, 02:36 PM
Post subject: 50nl standard spot - advice on all streets
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GAME #2116724878: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2010-02-12 15:05:34
Table Pilate (Beginner)
Seat 1: RedCherry787 ($55.40 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: McIsildur ($55.35 in chips)
Seat 6: headfelt ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 8: ImSoSexy20 ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 10: bambuleee ($40.19 in chips)
McIsildur: Post SB $0.25
headfelt: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to headfelt [DQ DA]
ImSoSexy20: Raise (NF) $1.50
bambuleee: Fold
RedCherry787: Fold
McIsildur: Fold
headfelt: Call $1.00
*** FLOP *** [D10 HQ C10]
headfelt: Bet $2.50
ImSoSexy20: Call $2.50
*** TURN *** [S7]
headfelt: Bet $5.00
ImSoSexy20: Raise (NF) $13.00
headfelt: Call $8.00
*** RIVER *** [D6]
headfelt: Check
ImSoSexy20: Bet $33.00
headfelt: ?
no reads, just sat at the table
pre: should I 3bet this?
flop: I donk because if i check 1. if he bets and i raise i over-rep my hand, 2. if he checked behind J,K,A are all not great turns, maybe c/c is best?
turn: maybe just fold? i think im near the top of my range though?
river: i cant put him on a hand... it seems pretty polarized
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pocketfours
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I don't really like anything postflop.
Pre: Don't 3bet if you don't know whether you should 3bet. Flatting is standard.
Flop: Well certainly do not c/r unless playing against some weirdo maniac or you have history. Either bet or c/c. Which is better depends on villain, usually c/c.
Turn: As played I would usually c/c. I doubt he checks river behind if he is bluffing so I think you should fold turn or call both.
River: As played I would call because I called turn. Certainly not happy about that vs unknown.
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nutsinho
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i usually fold DQ DA preflop
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eragotte
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Pre: Don't 3bet if you don't know whether you should 3bet. Flatting is standard.
Flop: Well certainly do not c/r unless playing against some weirdo maniac or you have history. Either bet or c/c. Which is better depends on villain, usually c/c.
Turn: As played I would usually c/c. I doubt he checks river behind if he is bluffing so I think you should fold turn or call both.
River: As played I would call because I called turn. Certainly not happy about that vs unknown.
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ya this all makes sense to me, thanks. i think i over estimate the amount people bluff at 50nl since i compare unknowns to what i might do and i bluff way more than average
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pocketfours
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i usually fold DQ DA preflop
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Vs 3x open?
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eragotte
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i assumed he was kidding, if not im realllyyy missing something
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by eragotte
ya this all makes sense to me, thanks. i think i over estimate the amount people bluff at 50nl since i compare unknowns to what i might do and i bluff way more than average
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np. Try to play in a way that doesn't induce bluffs if you don't want to call them down and don't get into marginal spots vs unknowns.
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by eragotte
i assumed he was kidding, if not im realllyyy missing something
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Erm. I assure you he is not kidding.
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eragotte
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np. Try to play in a way that doesn't induce bluffs if you don't want to call them down and don't get into marginal spots vs unknowns.
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ya i need to play more c/c c/f and c/c c/c c/f lines with decent hands where im getting into trouble
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Erm. I assure you he is not kidding.
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hmmm im playing very badly in this spot then, vs unknown full stack for 2bb more im calling with like A9s+ KQ+ AJ+ 22+ :S that must be horrible then
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by eragotte
Erm. I assure you he is not kidding.
hmmm im playing very badly in this spot then, vs unknown full stack for 2bb more im calling with like A9s+ KQ+ AJ+ 22+ :S that must be horrible then
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Yeah it's too loose.
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BigPapi
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but DD's look pretty
agree with p4's. Depends on villain if I c/c turn/river or just fold turn. Against full stack UTG I would probably fold to turn raise as played
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nutsinho
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oh i was kidding, i thought it would be obv. the format is painful to read
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XTR1000
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If you lead flop vs an unknown you are pretty much commited to calling a raise imo, many regs at these stakes will still just auto-bluffraise any donk bet b/c too many fish do this with an inherently weak range.
C/c flop is standard and when I do that I lead/fold this turn a lot to keep KQ/QJ/JJ and the like from checking back. As played Im prob b/folding turn.
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eragotte
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C/c flop is standard and when I do that I lead/fold this turn a lot to keep KQ/QJ/JJ and the like from checking back
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thats a cool line, i like
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oh i was kidding, i thought it would be obv. the format is painful to read
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hand converter isnt working for ipoker hands for me, no clue why, i apologize to everyone whose brains got injured reading that
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
If you lead flop vs an unknown you are pretty much commited to calling a raise imo, many regs at these stakes will still just auto-bluffraise any donk bet
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I agree with this, but I'm not sure how many would take the call flop, bluff raise turn line necessarily. This is definitely scarier.
I'd prob call turn and re-eval. I think river is a fold, he has Tx a ton.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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