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Old 05-29-2007, 05:43 PM     Post subject: 50NL QQ, 567 flop, aggressive opponent. #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 30/4/9 over about 60 hands. Pretty coordinated board... aggressive opponent, def woulda raised with KK/AA.. but 55-JJ is certainly possible. As is weird connectors, which may include the flopped nuts. Anyway, you go?

I just got stacked about 3 hands prior against a different villain who flopped a straight on me.

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HOP1DEVIL - Posts small blind $0.25
A236KR - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [Qh Qs]
EUPHOLOGI - Raises to $2
POOTER11 - Folds
THYROIDSTORM - Calls $2
IMALLSKILL - Folds
HOP1DEVIL - Folds
A236KR - Folds
*** FLOP *** [6 5 7]
EUPHOLOGI - Bets $4
THYROIDSTORM - Raises to $9
EUPHOLOGI - Raises to $27
THYROIDSTORM - Pushes, and he covers.
EUPHOLOGI - ...
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:51 PM     Post subject: Re: 50NL QQ, 567 flop, aggressive opponent. #2 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't have 4bet the flop and I think I would have to let this go. But then again, I'm in a very nitty place these days....
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:00 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 This guy Thyroidstorm can play. He's able to lay down. He has something, He doesn't put his stack on the line easily.
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 he should have 55/66/77 about 95% of the time
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Board: 6h 5d 7c
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.036% 56.34% 01.69% 35142 1055.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 41.964% 40.27% 01.69% 25118 1055.00 { JJ-44, 87s, 54s, 87o, 54o }
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I wish you could weight pokerstove averages.
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:29 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Board: 6h 5d 7c
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.115% 38.38% 01.73% 7980 360.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 59.885% 58.15% 01.73% 12090 360.00 { 88-44 }
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:35 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 I really dont think he has 44 here Euph
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I wish you could weight pokerstove averages.
I think you can weight them actually. There's a button which lets you pick all the possible suit combinations of a particular hand. (I think its the 'RD' button).

So if you think a hand is less likely than others, you can just remove some of the possible suit combinations so that it'll be weighted less heavily than the other hands with all suit combinations.

ie: you think a hand 85o is only 10% as likely as the other hands, so only keep 10% of the possible suit combinations.
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:05 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 I'd be check/raising the flop a lot against this guy.



 
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:09 PM #11 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.129% 58.37% 01.76% 19068 576.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 39.871% 38.11% 01.76% 12450 576.00 { JJ-55 }



equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.313% 29.54% 01.78% 4386 264.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 68.687% 66.91% 01.78% 9936 264.00 { 88-55 }
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:16 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 Looking at his stats you need to include all suited connectors in his range that he could play this way.

45,56,67,78,89
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:56 PM #13 (permalink)  
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 Why did you 3 bet? I would lean more towards calling and then check raising safe turn all in or folding. I don't 3 bet this flop very often.
 
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:31 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Let's not forget about 89s, which is one of the best overpair crackers. I think best case he has 78 and here you are barely ahead and in all the other cases you are severely behind...

I probably call his flop raise, and check/call or check/fold based on turn. I don't see how you have FE here and I don't see worse hands calling a push.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:31 PM #15 (permalink)  
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im not folding thats for sure vs a 9 AF player!!!!

I would probably push but am unsure if thats better than calling though.

but when you 4 bet flop you need to think of what your gonna do if he shoves. either you instacall or instafold, obv you didnt know what you wanted to acheive by raising again.

i like calling to keep it small. i think this is one of the few times ill say that you can call and evaluate turn *puke*
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:55 PM #16 (permalink)  
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30 V$IP, over 60 hands -> he's seen 9-12 flops depending on blinds. His aggression factor of 9 is more or less meaningless.
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Old 05-31-2007, 02:30 PM #17 (permalink)  
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I have 300 hands against villain (thyroidstorm) in my database. He's a solid player--one of the few i watch out for because I know he doesn't donk off his stack easily. One hand I hit my set on him and he had AQ TPTK on flop and I only managed to get $20 from him. I was OOP and he checked the river through on me which I did not expect (tried to trick him but it didn't work!). So either he is a very good hand reader or he just knows that if I am in the hand, I must have something. So, it's been my experience that he doesn't felt it without the goods. With that said Euph, he has a set, str8 or 2 pr here 90% of the time. So I fold that one....I also wouldn't 4 bet it either. Not on that kind of flop against storm--he is loose pf (36/10/3.0 in my database) so I put him squarely on 34, 56, 67, 89 sooted or 55, 66, 77.

Lastly, Euph....we have 260 hands together as well. Send me a PM if you want to know my SN...
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:14 PM #18 (permalink)  
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apologies i didnt take into acount the amount of hands you played with him. must of glanced past that bit
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