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Juked07
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04-24-2010, 04:59 AM
Post subject: 50NL was this okay?
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 83
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Villains are pretty normal 50NL players. I feel like I never had the value or FE to raise at any point in this hand, and I always had the odds to call.
Did I botch this hand somewhere?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($52.85)
MP ($52.75)
CO ($115.05)
Button ($80.75)
SB ($99.65)
Hero (BB) ($136.50)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 10 , Q
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2
Flop: ($7.50) 4, 3, K (3 players)
SB bets $4.65, Hero calls $4.65, Button calls $4.65
Turn: ($21.45) J (3 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls $18, Button raises to $73.60 (All-In), SB raises to $92.50 (All-In), Hero calls $74.50
River: ($280.05) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $280.05 | Rake: $3
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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raise/fold the flop >>> call
with so many outs you can't really blunder the turn that badly, but you wouldn't be in this spot if you'd raised the flop
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BooG690
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Why do you think raising the flop is so much greater than calling? I personally like calling here with button left to act behind us. This isn't a raise/fold spot at all. I don't get how you came to that conclusion.
I'm not liking the turn call too much. You don't have the odds to call and the call is made worse with button left to act.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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Juked07
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 83
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You mean the first bet right? Are you sure I don't have the odds to call? I'm calling 18 into 40 ~30% equity.. The only thing that can ruin our EV is if button shoves and SB folds, and button rarely shoves here. And how often does SB donk 2 streets and fold to a raise?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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great spot to take a really strong looking line; it looks like you have a set if you raise into SB who is showing a ton of strength, because of that i highly doubt you're gonna get 3bet on the flop. since we got position on SB, and he's the most likely caller to our raise, we'll probably get to see the turn + river for free!
also consider that we're 200+ bb deep with a non nut draw. if we call, the flush card hits and we start opening up the betting our hand is gonna look exactly like what it is. and since we don't have the nut flush, if we get raised big playing for stacks may not be desirable.
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
Administrator
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personally i just shove the turn myself as played.
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Poker Guru
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Two Pair
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Preflop this is a clear fold. I do not like the flop call either.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bbickes
personally i just shove the turn myself as played.
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+1
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texa8
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
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as played shove turn
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pocketfours
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Moderator
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I fold pre against most solid players. I also like a flop fold. As played I think I'd just call turn to keep the limpcaller in the pot. Doubt you have too much FE. Somebody has a set.
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