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kmind
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06-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Post subject: 50NL - He Wakes Up On Blank Turn
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Button is playing 30/24/4.8 over 105 hands and has fold to 3bet% at 33%. Flop I think he can have like a random PP trying to float/AQ/KQ/QJ/AcJc/T9/random clubs?. Therefore I think I am crushing his range and elect to b/c
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Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($99.65)
UTG ($66)
MP ($50)
Button ($91.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A
2 folds, Button bets $1.50, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50
Flop: ($10.50) Q , 2, J (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $6
Turn: ($22.50) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button raises to $80.50 (All-In), Hero calls $27 (All-In)
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so did he have queens or jacks?
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kmind
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Neither, now post stuff that makes sense
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FateAver
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He has 44? or maybe 2 pairs?
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Originally Posted by kmind
Neither, now post stuff that makes sense
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that hurts my feelings 
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kmind
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Ok sorry, now stop derailing my thread
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Mega standarddd
Drawy flop, on which he'll raise QQQ,JJJ and QJ fairly often.
Once he flats, already his range is much weaker. This turn isn't really a spot to b/f on that particular card.
If you had bet a bit bigger, I'd say in my experience that most people when faced with this turn bet would ask themselves if they are ahead or not... shove if yes and fold if not. People prob won't call that often when it leaves like a 1/3rd pot left on river. Especially on such a drawy board with two FD's and straight draws.
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Alexos
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I don't like your bet sizing, I usually just make it bigger since its so drawy and he's likely to continue with a lot of hands .. maybe 9$ on flop and shove the turn
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kmind
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I guess I just bet lower in 3bet pots in general since I think people's ranges are polarized often as in nut hands or shit they can't continue with. Maybe I should hand read better and realize there are spots where they have a lot more shit than what makes up a polarized range.
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Warpe
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What Alexos said, esp on FTP.
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Alexos
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And in general I do agree with you, id half pot maybe 90% of boards in 3bet pots. This is one of those 10% that I'd rather near pot though. Also because stacks are awkward to three barrel with, so id rather pot and then shove turn.
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Originally Posted by Alexos
I don't like your bet sizing, I usually just make it bigger since its so drawy and he's likely to continue with a lot of hands .. maybe 9$ on flop and shove the turn
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If he raises the flop with a fd, which many do, it's not so drawy. I think the texture of the board is slightly, if not greatly, misleading.
Standard hand, wp.
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Originally Posted by Alexos
I don't like your bet sizing, I usually just make it bigger since its so drawy and he's likely to continue with a lot of hands .. maybe 9$ on flop and shove the turn
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If he raises the flop with a fd, which many do, it's not so drawy. I think the texture of the board is slightly, if not greatly, misleading.
Standard hand, wp. |
For 27 more into 50 Id call. Your bets look weak, he may put you on TP or even AK.
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KK/AQ fit, moreso than QQ/JJ that don't mind getting it in against super-draws as much. Then again it's a heads-up 3-bet pot so meh...
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