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Old 09-15-2009, 05:45 PM     Post subject: 50NL Hands #1 (permalink)  
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 1. UTG+1 is playing 32/10/3 with 3.6 on the flop over 400 hands. SB is 21/2/0.4 over 60 hands.

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BB ($40.30)
Hero (UTG) ($88.25)
MP ($69.85)
CO ($92.10)
Button ($90.30)
SB ($50.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($7.25) 4, J, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, MP raises to $15, 1 fold, BB calls $15, Hero raises to $67.25, MP raises to $68.10 (All-In), BB calls $23.55 (All-In), Hero calls $0.85


2. Guy is 36/30/3 over 70 hands. I pick up a few outs on the turn but is it sufficient? On the river, I assume he should be checking a ton of his range here but in the heat of the moment I put him on Asxs. Should I just skip the river bet?

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Hero (CO) ($51.50)
Button ($70.10)
SB ($50)
BB ($111.30)
UTG ($50.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10, Q
UTG bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($4) 7, 8, 3 (4 players)
SB bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($11) J (2 players)
SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($26) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:07 PM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1: your 3b accomplishes nothing
hand 2: don't show results
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1: your 3b accomplishes nothing
hand 2: don't show results
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how is that helpful
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:44 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 1, meh fold after a raise and cold call, shoving isn't terrible but it's rather high variance.


hand 2: calling turn is fine, semi bluff raising would be fairly terrible. River I'd give up, too many draws bricked and if this guy can hand read only hand you play this way that v bets river is jx spades or j9/j10, though him hand reading isn't even necessary due to your small river bet, he'll just look at the sizing and call. He nearly always has 8x or j9/j10 by river himself which he isn't folding to your river bet, if you want to bluff bet river alot bigger, i.e. $20-22, though I'd just check.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:52 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand #1 Seems kinda standard?? There are a lot of draws both vils could be on AJs even. I guess were pretty much just F'ed by sets which is for sure in their range as well.

Hand #2 Does this Vil play draws aggressively? Flop could be a standard CBET and maybe picked up Heart draw on Turn. Your River bet will fold out all of those. But this player is prob the type to also C/C his medium strength hands. Maybe skip the river bet imo
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hand 1: your 3b accomplishes nothing
hand 2: don't show results
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how is that helpful
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but seriously I don't like his 3b in hand 1
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Thoughts on how Hand #1 should be played iopq? And no Im not trying to be a penis, Im curious what your thoughts are.
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Hand 1

I fold without a read that the other players in this pot are very loose aggressive. This is a 4 way pot and at best you are up against a combo draw or a pair+an over.

this is the type of flop multi way with QQ that you want 1 or 2 calls maybe, no raises, and folds are fine. you don't want to ship here very often without a solid read, especially with that player flatting...



Hand 2

I 3bet pre, as he sounds like a loose player that probably doesn't have significant regard for position. I make a 3x 3bet and expect to win the pot on the flop with a cbet. I also expect to steal the button with a very playable hand.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:10 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I think I like hand 1. Only thing I'm concerned about is that he's raising in a 4 way pot. I think he has value hands in his range though, and I'm not really concerned about the passive BB.

hand 2 - flop raise is standard ? I 3-bet pre too.
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