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Old 08-26-2008, 11:23 PM     Post subject: 50nl facing river 4 bet shove #1 (permalink)  
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Only played a dozen or so hands. Opp hasn't 3 bet yet but opened prob 75% from the bu I'm more like 60% opening. Gave up to aggresion on most flops but did standard c bets etc. Nothing crazy has occured so far.

Easy fold or?? Can he do this with a set of 2s or two pair or just a flush?

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BB: $62.90
Hero (SB): $62.95

Pre-Flop: 4 4 dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 2 A 7 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, BB calls $2.20

Turn: ($7.40) T (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.40) 4 (2 Players)
BB bets $5.50, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $59.20 and is All-In, Hero folds? [/i]
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:16 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Wow that's a gay spot. I'm not sure i can bring myself to fold tho because i'm a station, it's early in the match and i could probably convince myself he's capable of bluffing. Or value-shoving worse. Ppl do some wierd shit HU. In fact ya, i call. The pain of losing $45 is nothing compared to the psychological torture of wondering if i got bluffed off a set
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:43 AM #4 (permalink)  
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lol he's not bluffing
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:58 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Probably not anywhere near often enough for calling here to be profitable, no. But that doesn't mean i'd be able to prevent my finger hovering over the call button then, click it. Someone took this very line against me yesterday with a rivered 2-pair on a 4 straight, 4 flush board, so it does happen. Obv this board is much drier tho, barring the backdoor flush, so a spazz bluff isn't that likely.

In summary, i can't fold sets HU against an unknown, even to super river agression.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:45 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I call here. Its such a dry board, this is 50NL, hands are over-valued all the time here. Agreed it's never a bluff but are we really putting him on a back door flush or higher set enough to fold.

I think most players 3 bet all hands that are now sets pre flop except 22 (which we obv beat)

I really think this is a worse value shove a lot of the time - a slow played set of duces or some aces up hand.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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easy fold, no one is good enough to bluff and that is what you beat
 
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Old 08-30-2008, 04:44 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I tanked and made a spewwy bad call i think. He head A8h gg.
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