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jimmy44
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01-03-2010, 06:47 PM
Post subject: 50NL - 2 pairs by the river vs FISH
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My image is quite tagish, but villain is a huge fish: 73/20, so it doesn't matter 
I think I missed an opportunity to bet the turn.
Now how much to bet on the river? $12? What do we do if villain c/bombs?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($153.46)
UTG ($26.60)
Hero (MP) ($66.22)
Button ($22.20)
SB ($48.82)
Preflop: Hero is MP with K , Q
UTG bets $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50
Flop: ($8.25) 8 , Q, 6 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6, 1 fold, BB calls $6, 1 fold
Turn: ($20.25) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($20.25) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???
Total pot: $20.25
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meeloche
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Turn is probably too thin imo, I'm undecided I think i'd play it the same and b/f like 14 or 15 on the river.
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Alexos
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I kind of wanna bet the turn vs a whale, 11$ or so, and shove this river.
As played I don't think his range can call a big river bet, so id bet 8-11$. Soulread if he shoves
edit: not quite sure about turn either tbh
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eragotte
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i dont mind how you played it, id bet river low, thats always my default vs these shitty players, 73/20 rarely check checks with a good hand, he may check turn but the river check says he doesnt have much imo. i milk his Q4 garbage for like 6-9 bucks i think 10 is way more likely to get him to fold so def under that
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Ravageur
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i think turn is fine, now just bet 2/3 pot on river.
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nutsinho
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turn check is fine to induce random bluff because fish tend to fold shitty hands on scary turns. river clear bet/fold, 8 dollars. preflop is pretty shitty
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Marshall28
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I think checking is fine, but I prefer betting like 12 bucks on the turn because if the fish called you with 9T/JT/J9 and one of those cards was a spade he won't fold the turn. Or he could have 8xXs and not fold the turn. Then I'd just bet like 2/3-3/4 pot on the river (too many variables go into figuring out which one is better).
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jimmy44
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thanks guys!
Well I normally don't call this but I wanted to play a potentialy good hand vs the fish (BB) IP. Plus UTG was kind of fish also. If I 3bet then I'm not sure the fish comes along.
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lancelott_
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nutsinho, could you please expand a little bit on your preflop comment. Why is it shitty to ccall on CO here? would you prefer to 3B for value here? what if players behind (blinds) are fishy as well and we don`t wanna blow them off a hand. or too many RIO for KQo for likely MW..? cose i thought my default so far here would be to call (mb fold), as i find value 3B a bit too think here..?
thx
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Marshall28
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Preflop isn't bad given a few different scenarios. If UTG opens >18%, you are doing fine against his range. When you are calling in order to play pots with fish assuming that the original raiser is strong, you have to make it clear to yourself that if the pf raiser wants to play a big pot w/ you when you flop top pair that you need to play it very passively or just give it up if he tries to bomb it. The profit comes from the fish.
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