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swiggidy
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01-03-2007, 03:47 AM
Post subject: 50NL - 2 almost standard hands + 1 bonus hand
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hand 1:villain seemed aggressive, but only 10 hands
Hero ($47.75)
SB ($44.50)
BB ($21.25)
UTG ($34.05)
MP ($59.45)
CO ($116.05)
Preflop: Hero is Button with T , 8 .
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, SB raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.
Flop: ($7.50) T , 9 , 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.
Turn: ($17.50) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $36, Hero ???
Hand 2:
Hero ($48.50)
SB ($84.35)
BB ($22.85)
UTG ($31.45)
MP ($60.75)
CO ($117.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 5 , 6 .
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($2) 9 , Q , 4 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $2.
Turn: ($6) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4.
River: ($14) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $25 (puts villain all-in)
pre-flop I'm calling to play my position. Thoughts on river push?
Hand 3:
Hero ($80.20)
Button ($65.65)
SB ($23)
BB ($18.25)
UTG ($57.75)
MP ($122.65)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , Q .
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2.
Flop: ($10) 6 , A , J (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4, UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $15, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $11.
Turn: ($44) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
River: ($44) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero folds.
I wanted to isolate on the flop, turn is scary and there isn't much left behind. River looks like a straight up value bet, I'm thinking AJ, maybe 66 more than the flush. Any thoughts on this hand cuz it seems kinda bad?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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hand 1: fold. You don't really have any draw because if he has you beat you're straight won't be any good.
hand 2: i wouldn't push, i'd raise to 16.
hand 3: good fold.
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dan
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Hand 1) i fold
Hand 2) Is fine given that hes a shortstack donk
Hand 3) i play the same.
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Silly String
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Full House
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In hand 1, what does villain re-raise with that beats us here? TT, ATs, 99. All those are kinda unlikely 3 betting hands at 50NL. I also see his 3 bet is small, so he may not be a solid player.
I am inclined to pay off this guy if he has been real aggressive since he sat at the table. I think he may be overplaying AA or KK here.
Absent those reads, I would likely fold.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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hand 1 : pooooooooooosh (if he flopped a set good for him he's prob an idiot "slowplaying" an overpair with a big club)
hand 2 : fine
hand 3 : Why isolate on the flop? What does this accomplish? (there may be something obvious I'm missing but it seems to me you set yourself up to win a small one or lose a big one here...)
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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btw to ppl saying "fold hand 1" what hand do you put villain on? Flopped flush?
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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biondino
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I think the problem is that almost any genuine hand that check-raises you on the river beats you - a set, a flush, (a ten or J8/68 are pretty unlikely given the PFR).
Hmm, as I type that, I realise that a nervous overpair (fits with the PFR) might well choose to play this way - they didn't like the flop so they checked, then they think you're either c-betting or have a flush draw, they don't think it's likely you have a ten. It's ugly but it's certainly possible - the overbet could indicate they're scared of the texture rather than holding a monster.
Amazing how many times you can change you mind when studying a hand history
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bode
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hand 1: i call this. this looks like a scared overpair more than anything else.
hand 2: standard vs shorty.
hand 3: good fold.
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nutsinho
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hand 1 is an easy call, i like both 2 and 3
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