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Old 11-24-2008, 09:25 PM     Post subject: 50 nl KK #1 (permalink)  
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I know this kinda scenario has beaten to death but I still am not sure what to do.

Villain is pretty tight, I haven't seen him do anything of note.

He insta raised turn.

Should I bet this flop oop? Was leading turn a mistake?

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BTN: $52.10
SB: $64.60
Hero (BB): $69

Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to $1.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.25) 9 A 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($12.25) T (2 Players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $18.25, Hero folds right?
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I like the way it was played now fold. I might be inclined to check turn but not sure how bad that is? I'd much rather see a dud than a T.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Does anyone ever cbet this?
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:58 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Does anyone ever cbet this?
Yes, being OOP, I would cbet this a lot. If you check here with TT-KK, then your hand is prertty much face up, unless you frequently check here with AJ+, AA.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:37 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Against tight players I don't have any problem checking this flop. I also would also check some aces. Against looser or more suspicious players I would cbet. I think turn bet/fold is good.
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i cbet this maybe 90% of the time, especially 3 handed where villain should be calling more 3bets, especially in position like this. as played b/f on the turn is fine.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:54 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Against tight players I don't have any problem checking this flop. I also would also check some aces. Against looser or more suspicious players I would cbet. I think turn bet/fold is good.
I do this too.

It leaves me thinking though that I can't stand 3 streets of c/c with any hand when I check an ace high flop OOP, without hitting.

Is your plan to c/c 3 streets with the Ax ?
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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you shouldn't be overly worried about balancing lines/ranges at 50nl because 99% of villains aren't considering it.
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:34 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Against tight players I don't have any problem checking this flop. I also would also check some aces. Against looser or more suspicious players I would cbet. I think turn bet/fold is good.
I do this too.

It leaves me thinking though that I can't stand 3 streets of c/c with any hand when I check an ace high flop OOP, without hitting.

Is your plan to c/c 3 streets with the Ax ?
It depends what the x is, how often villain 4bets, how much they like to bet...
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:53 PM #10 (permalink)  
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you shouldn't be overly worried about balancing lines/ranges at 50nl because 99% of villains aren't considering it.
This is why I check the flop...
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:27 AM #11 (permalink)  
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you shouldn't be overly worried about balancing lines/ranges at 50nl because 99% of villains aren't considering it.
IMO this is why you should Cbet. Even at $50NL if you check here you are letting him know that you either missed or are now scared of the Ace.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:03 AM #12 (permalink)  
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you shouldn't be overly worried about balancing lines/ranges at 50nl because 99% of villains aren't considering it.
IMO this is why you should Cbet. Even at $50NL if you check here you are letting him know that you either missed or are now scared of the Ace.
Your two sentences don't match up with each other.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:22 AM #13 (permalink)  
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Lets consider a totally different line: Call preflop then open-shove any flop. What about that?
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