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AHiltz
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10-10-2006, 02:57 PM
Post subject: 5 to the flush. River decision.
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Opp is 28/8/2. He has been trying to be aggressive at the table, but turns into a calling station when met with resistance. He will raise/reraise when he believes he has the best of it.
Seat 1: HERO ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 2: leou ($86.49 in chips)
Seat 3: Mfhrgm ($103.53 in chips)
Seat 4: rregehr28 ($61 in chips)
Seat 5: Granata ($68.04 in chips)
Seat 6: psfpf ($80 in chips)
Granata: posts small blind $0.50
psfpf: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO  
HERO: raises to $4
leou: calls $4
4 folds
----- FLOP -----   
HERO: bets $6
leou: calls $6
----- TURN ----- 
HERO: bets $15
leou: calls $15
----- RIVER ----- 
HERO: bets $25
leou: raises to $61.49 and is all-in
HERO?????
Here are my thoughts. Don't read if this could taint your answer.
His preflop call means any A, pair or broadways as far as I'm concearned.
When he calls the flop, I give about 5% chance that he flopped a flush. When the turn brings the Ah, I am relieved.
I bet the turn, and he does not raise me. This to me tells me that he does not have the Kh or Qh due to his previous actions. Can he be getting tricky? I just can't see it due to previous hands.
River brings the last heart. 3 hearts beat me. I don't see him holding one so I value bet. He pushes and I puke.
I'm getting 3.78:1. With my reasonings and reads from before this is a must call, is it not?
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bode
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i really dont like this. with you leading out OOP on every street and villain calling it all the way down i would be fairly sure youre beat here. i know you said he is a calling station when HE is aggro and met with resistance, but he hasnt been aggro this whole hand, you have. i dont mind the turn bet so much, but i check behind this river and probly make a crying call on any reasonable size bet from villain.
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I don't think there's even a 10% chance he's doing this with 7h or less.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
i check behind this river and probly make a crying call on any reasonable size bet from villain.
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...and fold to a push.
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AHiltz
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So what do you put opp on then?
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Robert
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I fold. This type of player wont do this without the king of hearts here (maybe Q of hearts) especially not against your ½pot river bet that really looks like a valuebet from the king or queen high flush.
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gabe
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10-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Post subject: Re: 5 to the flush. River decision.
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
I bet the turn, and he does not raise me. This to me tells me that he does not have the Kh or Qh due to his previous actions. Can he be getting tricky? I just can't see it due to previous hands.
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i dont know if anyone raises the K or the Q here
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Thee One
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10-10-2006, 09:39 PM
Post subject: Re: 5 to the flush. River decision.
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Originally Posted by gabe
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
I bet the turn, and he does not raise me. This to me tells me that he does not have the Kh or Qh due to his previous actions. Can he be getting tricky? I just can't see it due to previous hands.
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i dont know if anyone raises the K or the Q here |
Exactly...why raise when you are putting all the money in for him anyway?
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bode
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Originally Posted by Warpe
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
i check behind this river and probly make a crying call on any reasonable size bet from villain.
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...and fold to a push. |
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bode
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10-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Post subject: Re: 5 to the flush. River decision.
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Thee One
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Originally Posted by gabe
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
I bet the turn, and he does not raise me. This to me tells me that he does not have the Kh or Qh due to his previous actions. Can he be getting tricky? I just can't see it due to previous hands.
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i dont know if anyone raises the K or the Q here |
Exactly...why raise when you are putting all the money in for him anyway? |
exactly what i was trying to say. he has no reason to reraise on the turn because you are continually putting in decent sized bets OOP and building the pot for him. this is why he waits until the river. he knows either way you will bet and he will raise, or you will check behind and he can put out a nice value bet.
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AHiltz
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Well, thanks for pulling my head from my ass. I thought that my line was generally the way to go with this type of opp.
On another note, my read was bang on. I called and he showed  
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Fnord
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I would check the turn.
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AHiltz
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I would check the turn.
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noted
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