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Old 06-28-2006, 03:17 AM     Post subject: 4 betting QQ pf, deep stacks. #1 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, June 27, 22:54:33 ET 2006
Table Table 108712 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Wescalade3 ( $275.31 )
Seat 1: pbNjtime ( $199 )
Seat 5: jsh99 ( $122 )
Seat 4: raker102 ( $86.90 )
Seat 3: Nading21 ( $76.50 )
Seat 6: KingCarn ( $100 )
Wescalade3 posts small blind [$0.50].
Nading21 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pbNjtime [ Qs Qd ]
raker102 folds.
jsh99 calls [$1].
KingCarn folds.
pbNjtime raises [$4].
Wescalade3 raises [$6.50].
Nading21 calls [$6].
>You have options at Lady Ester Table!.
jsh99 calls [$6].
pbNjtime raises [$25].
Wescalade3 calls [$22].
Nading21 calls [$22].
>You have options at Table 108738 (No DP) Table!.
jsh99 calls [$22].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 3s, 3h ]
Wescalade3 checks.
Nading21 checks.
jsh99 checks.
pbNjtime bets [$70].
>You have options at Lady Ester Table!.
>You have options at Table 97159 Table!.
Wescalade3 calls [$70].
Nading21 folds.
jsh99 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Wescalade3 checks.
pbNjtime is all-In [$100]
>You have options at Table 97159 Table!.
Wescalade3 folds.
pbNjtime does not show cards.
>You have options at Table 97159 Table!.
pbNjtime wins $353

ok so wes has been pretty tight big stack, but I see a lot of people minreraiseing paint cards and lower pairs, even so I would normally just call this I think but then again we have deep stacks so I have room enough to 4 bet for a lot more info. the thing is I got the ss caller and we have jsh calling who is kinda tilting cuz he called on a flush draw a couple hands back and I had TPTK, he turned a better pair and checked it to me, I checked, river gives me trips and he nearly puts me all in and I call, he loses, and this is how I got my stack. I honestly dont want to see a flop 4 handed with QQ. Cuz then I have to play it like a bitch for a set. Also when we factor in that my effective stack with wes gives me room to reraise. On the flop Ive obv gotta cbet here, but then wes check/calls!? Then he checsk to me on the turn? Well how I figure, this guy is either weak (99, TT, somethin like this or pretty damn strong, but either way I just turned the second nut draw, and a possible scare card for his KK, and the pot is way too big to give up I think. What do you guys think?
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i think i would push the flop
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really? are we just assuming that wes never has AA and rarely has KK, the other players who knows, might have TP but nothing much really beats me here except JJ right? but what calls that I have beat? I guess AJ, and mabye cuz of the over bet, TT?
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i dont think they have AA or KK because of how they played preflop (anyone who minreraises is going to put in another minreraise with AA-KK). maybe you get a call from AJ or TT or sometihng.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:55 PM     Post subject: qq #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah i agree i think you wouldve seen another reraise preflop if someone had bigger pocket pair. And you cant ask for a better flop with qq, you def had the best hand.

I like the preflop rereraise, you did it to get a read if you were beat, and i dont think you are. On the flop i can see anything from aj to 55, especially at nl 100.
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