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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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10-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Post subject: 3bet pot, OOP, TPTK on flush board against fish 170BB 50NL
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2007
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His 54/40 fold to 3b: 38% over 100+ hands. I 3betted him once b4 and he folded to cbet. Standard to shove over n get it in? 100BB I would not 2nd guess.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) -
saw flop
MP ($71.85)
CO ($85.90)
Button ($51.85)
SB ($35.90)
Hero (BB) ($147.10)
UTG ($55.15)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  , 
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 1 fold
Flop: ($18.25)  ,  ,  (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $30
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dranger7070
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Interesting, I honestly have no idea. I'm eager to see some replies to this one.
These are my probably terribad thoughts:
He's pretty loose PF, so he could have any type of hand. Sets, two pair, weaker K, flushes, FDs, etc. I think just flatting and getting it in on a "safe" turn would be fine, as he could just be raising up the Ah or Qh flush draw. OR, he could have AhKx here and he's just freerolling you, which would kidn of make me puke in my mouth a bit.
Bah, I'm rambling, but thats probably the line I take if he doesn't want to keep the pot small on the turn. Just flat the flop, and try to get it in on the turn, since if he IS drawing to the flush, his chances just got cut in half.
eager to see some other responses to this.
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
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ez jam vs. a drooler like this.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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gabe
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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i dont think he raises without a heart in his hand, maybe jam non heart turns?
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Yeah I agree with above. I think we have too much behind to just jam flop.
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
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Originally Posted by meeloche
Yeah I agree with above. I think we have too much behind to just jam flop.
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villains raise is to $30 and he has <$50 behind after that. I think a jam is fine with stack sizes. also villain may well give up turn if hes raising with just a heart. If we were IP i would like calling and getting it in on a non heart turn better, but OOP were jamming $50 into $75 and villain will fold alot and check back a ton if we check turn.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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sauce123
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make it 10-12 preflop.
the flop is gross oop against this player type. always always bet and expect him to call much more often than he raises.
against his minraise you have to decide whether its possible he is raising for information with a hand like JxJh or KQ or KxJh etc. Also consider whether he might bluffraise the flop and then always shutdown if you continue. think about his timing and how he has played nut hands in the past. if none of this helps, just fold now since no turn card is particularly helpful to you as weak as that sounds.
usually you can find some situations in which a player this loose would raise/shutdown on flops like this so be prepared to peel pretty often.
i would never change initiative, the only card where its even remotely defensible is on a non heart A.
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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