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donkbee
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07-13-2010, 09:13 PM
Post subject: 3bet AA, two calls (50NL PS)
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UTG is 37/11 and when he raises preflop, he calls 3bets pretty loosely. I've seen him c/r a cbet after flopping a flush draw+gutshot.
CO is a pretty standard 21/18 TAGG. The only big hand I've seen him play recently is one where he 3bet preflop and then bet/pushed a flopped flush draw. And FWIW, I've never seen him cold 4bet before although is 4bet stat is 25% (12).
If the turn were the J , I'm assuming this should be an easy c/f. With the J should it still be c/f?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($69.30)
SB ($51.35)
BB ($66.40)
UTG ($47)
Hero (MP) ($50)
CO ($106.40)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , A
UTG bets $2, Hero raises $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds, UTG calls $5
Flop: ($21.75) 10, Q, 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $13, CO calls $13, UTG calls $13
Turn: ($60.75) J (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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sauce123
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ur crushed here, c/f. tank a bit so that they might think u are slowplaying aK and get a free showdown against AQ and KQ like 10% of the time or w/e or u get a free one
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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donkbee
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sounds good, ty ben.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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griffey24
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I'm kind of torn on this.
I feel as though this board is drawy enough that QQQ/TTT might make some noise on this flop.
UTG would likely fold JJ on the flop to this action (I'm assuming). So it really only changes things if CO peeled flop with JJ.
I'd check and re-eval.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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Galapogos
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griffey, you've lost touch with the micros. I agree it's a c/f because all the reasons you think they shouldn't have those hands don't apply.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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lancelott_
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im scared about CO(reg) mostly. vs fish i never fold and ship every time - enough KQ/AQ/KJ hands in his range for sure. CO should only have sets by the turn. Ugly spot with all the dead money compared to stacksizes already, we`re making such a big mistake when folding the best hand. i`m usually not good enough to make a good ch-fold in these spots.
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sauce123
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
im scared about CO(reg) mostly. vs fish i never fold and ship every time - enough KQ/AQ/KJ hands in his range for sure. CO should only have sets by the turn. Ugly spot with all the dead money compared to stacksizes already, we`re making such a big mistake when folding the best hand. i`m usually not good enough to make a good ch-fold in these spots.
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c/f can be good even if we think that those hands are in their range because they miiight fold them to a bit and def wont bet them when we check. if we get to the river when turn checks thru we can make a blocking bet sometimes
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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