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Old 09-08-2007, 12:56 PM     Post subject: 3 x 3bet JJ hands #1 (permalink)  
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These hands are the same hand taking place at the same time in alternate universes where some of the cards are dealt differently. Villain is on 2 of my tables. I have 3bet villain once before over the past half an hour and he called preflop before folding to my cbet on a K high flop. He runs 17/16 and im pretty sure he raises all PPs from all positions. Standard?

Hand 1:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($48.23)
SB ($12.76)
Hero ($64.93)
UTG ($25.35)
MP ($25.35)
CO ($27.46)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.875, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($8.10) 6, Q, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP calls $5.

Turn: ($18.10) T (2 players)
Hero checks, MP calls $25.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.45

Hand 2:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($48.23)
SB ($12.76)
Hero ($64.93)
UTG ($25.35)
MP ($25.35)
CO ($27.46)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.875, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($8.10) 6, 9, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP calls $5.

Turn: ($18.10) T (2 players)
Hero checks, MP calls $25.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.45


Hand 3:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($48.23)
SB ($12.76)
Hero ($64.93)
UTG ($25.35)
MP ($25.35)
CO ($27.46)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.875, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($8.10) 6, 9, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP calls $5.

Turn: ($18.10) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP calls $25.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.45
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 id fold 1 and call the rest at 25nl.
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 Is it possible to b/f a reasonable amount on the turn without being potfucked?
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I think Hero should avoid betting in 1/2 cent intervalson the 3bets... the villain probably read weakness...

Honestly though, I agree with above.. fold #1.. call 2&3... even if he raises PT from all positions.. would he be calling 3bets without implied odds?.. (hmm. actually... he may be getting implied odds... i suck at multiplication)
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think Hero should avoid betting in 1/2 cent intervalson the 3bets... the villain probably read weakness...
In other universes half cents are allowed....


Actually its probably just a converter screw up. I reraised to $4.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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2 & 3. c/c turn or b/c turn?
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:53 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 I just 2barrell shove them all....
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:08 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I just 2barrell shove them all....
Ok thats interesting. I personally thought 1 is a c/f turn. 2 is close and im not sure what to do. 3 is a bet (or maybe c/c).
What do we beat on hand 1 that calls preflop and then calls the flop?
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:18 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 Do you have any reads on villain? Does he float you a lot? Does he raise his big hands, two pair, sets on the flop?

I don't mind the c/f in hand 1.

I think I lead hand 2, the turn brings too many draws, but we're committed to a raise at that point.

b/c or c/c hand 3 is good I think, seems too nitty to be folding in some of these spots when he can put you on AK and be floating your cont bet with mid pairs.
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