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Warpe
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02-21-2007, 12:17 AM
Post subject: 3-way top 2 hand OOP
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I'm a little lost on this one:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
Button ($120.60)
Hero ($130.43)
BB ($89.06)
UTG ($341.89)
MP ($101.85)
CO ($101.20)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 , A . Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($4) 7 , A , 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4, MP folds, Button raises to $8, Hero calls $8, BB calls $4.
Turn: ($28) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10, Button calls $10, Hero calls $10.
River: ($58) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls $26, BB folds.
Final Pot: $110
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Fnord
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Nice turn card. I would hammer it right there given that the action says we're good. Particularly since it's Party.
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Warpe
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Results:
Hero has 7c Ac (two pair, aces and sevens).
Button has As 4h (two pair, aces and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $110.
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Thee One
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I have a weakness for 2-pair and often overplay it. That said, why aren't we raising the turn? We're picking up a big pot from any big A on this board and chances are one of the two callers has one.
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Warpe
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I think I was befuddled by it being 3-way and me being OOP. 2 pair used to be a net loser for me, so I tend to be overly cautious with it.
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Renton
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u basically have the nuts on the flop if villains usually raise their medium pairs, so just check raise the turn.
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jackvance
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I usually play it the same, sometimes I'll raise the turn. It's hard to figure hands that beat us but it's also hard to figure hands that call a turn raise
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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griffey24
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
u basically have the nuts on the flop if villains usually raise their medium pairs, so just check raise the turn.
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I was gonna say the same thing. I check-raise this turn for sure.
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noble007
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Pity you posted the results, I also hammer that turn,
by that point it seems clear that BB's hand isn't that strong, I guess he bet out with a flush draw on flop his turn bet suggests he wants to see a relatively cheap river,
Buttons min raise was ominous but just calling the turn shows he doesn't have set or straight as he would make BB pay, so I would think my two pair is good.
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gabe
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bet flop, or check reraise flop. check calling isn't good.
now that you got to the turn and its a great card you gotta hammer it for sure.
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Fnord
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I don't have a problem feeling them out in an un-raised pot. But the turn action SCREAMS they can't beat top 2.
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Renton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
check reraise flop.
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this seems like a poor play for value. Astute players will pitch two pair.
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gabe
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if they are good (which i highly doubt they are), then you are making similiar plays with big draws so it doesn't matter.
i hate not betting the flop, but check reraise is alot better than c/c
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sauce123
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I raise flop... I also have a ridiculously laggy image and ppl expect me to do this with a draw. However regardless of ur image you want to build a pot where you can shove a non threatening turn card, preferably against one opponent holding either a draw or a smaller 2pair, that being said, ur going broke here to 66 sometimes but at least u got outzzzzz.
Essentially what im saying is that as played ur list of terrible turn cards IS: 5, 8, heart, T, 3, not to mention all of the combo heart draws who can hit a gutty on the turn to stack you. Soooo bomb flop to 22ish and shove most turns. You will be surprised how often ppl will look you up with worse, plus you have crushing equity against the combo draws on turn who may pay off if they r donklike enough. Most importantly, you shouldnt be sad to get two folds here.... Sauce.
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Renton
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SAUCE! SAUCE! SHE WANTS IT HER WAY, THATS OUR MOTTO!
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