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Old 11-10-2006, 11:29 PM     Post subject: 3 hands from 1st session after 3 weeks off #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 :

Villain is 25/8/2.7 big winner over 3k hands. We have very little history

- supremebeing sitting in seat 1 with $159.40
- Utkopt sitting in seat 2 with $395.10
- Florre sitting in seat 3 with $358.00 [Dealer]
- MEGASTEAM sitting in seat 4 with $732.84
- HERO sitting in seat 5 with $442.40
- VILLAIN sitting in seat 6 with $872.26

MEGASTEAM posted the small blind - $2.00
HERO posted the big blind - $4.00

** Dealing card to HERO: 10 of Clubs, 10 of Spades

VILLAIN called - $4.00
supremebeing folded
Utkopt folded
Florre folded
MEGASTEAM called - $4.00
HERO bet - $24.00
VILLAIN called - $24.00
MEGASTEAM folded

** Dealing the flop: 6 of Diamonds, 2 of Hearts, 5 of Clubs

POT : 52$


HERO bet - $33.00
VILLAIN called - $33.00

** Dealing the turn: 8 of Diamonds

POT : 118$

HERO checked
VILLAIN bet - $84.00
HERO…



Hand 2 :

No history with villain. He just sat down.

- VILLAIN sitting in seat 1 with $394.00
- Utkopt sitting in seat 2 with $556.70
- Florre sitting in seat 3 with $212.70
- MEGASTEAM sitting in seat 4 with $684.84
- HERO sitting in seat 5 with $394.00
- mrBroke sitting in seat 6 with $1259.76 [Dealer]

VILLAIN posted the small blind - $2.00
Utkopt posted the big blind - $4.00
** Dealing card to HERO: King of Spades, Queen of Hearts
Florre folded
MEGASTEAM folded
HERO raised - $14.00
mrBroke folded
VILLAIN called - $14.00
Utkopt folded

** Dealing the flop: 10 of Hearts, King of Hearts, Queen of Spades
VILLAIN checked
HERO bet - $23.00
VILLAIN raised - $46.00
HERO … If you plan on taking a non-shove line, what is your plan for the turn?



Hand 3 :

Villain has weird stats (38/21/1.7). This is our 1st big confrontatation. In an ealier hand I check-called a k-high turn w QQ then ½ potted the river. He folded (so I guess he’s capable of floating).

Not sure if this plays itself or not… When you don’t have enough info to determine what someone’s turn range is, what do you do in this spot?

- Utkopt sitting in seat 1 with $344.00
- longhand6 sitting in seat 2 with $797.21
- VILLAIN sitting in seat 3 with $636.55 [Dealer]
- HERO sitting in seat 4 with $535.60
- MEGASTEAM sitting in seat 5 with $410.10
- ibbosuk sitting in seat 6 with $165.70

HERO posted the small blind - $2.00
MEGASTEAM posted the big blind - $4.00

** Dealing card to HERO: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Spades

ibbosuk folded
Utkopt folded
longhand6 folded
VILLAIN raised - $16.00
HERO raised - $50.00
MEGASTEAM folded
VILLAIN called - $50.00

** Dealing the flop: 9 of Spades, 3 of Hearts, 3 of Spades

POT : 104$

HERO bet - $77.00
VILLAIN called - $77.00

** Dealing the turn: 5 of Hearts

POT : 248$

HERO checked
VILLAIN bet - $104.00
HERO …
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 i think you need to stop inducing turn bets when you don't know what to do when they bet.

I think you should be leading the turn in hands one and three, and in three you should be checkraising all in if you are checking the turn.
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Old 11-11-2006, 10:01 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 that's a good point rent ty
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 11-11-2006, 10:02 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 also, what about hand 2?
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 11-11-2006, 05:53 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 lead out turns if you're going to call a bet anyway.
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Old 11-11-2006, 06:20 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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lead out turns if you're going to call a bet anyway.
not necessarily, especially if villain is agg
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Old 11-11-2006, 06:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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hand 2 looks tough...lots of turns will look bad, but I'd discount a flush hurting you because he only min raised a board he shouldn't expect u to fold to that.
looks more like KJ, str8, worse 2pr, slow played TT-AA (maybe an uberdonkish top pair). I guess bet the turn 1/2 to 2/3 pot, or call a bet from him, and fold if he tries to get all in. maybe it's weak, but u have no reads.
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Old 11-11-2006, 10:17 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 Iowa seems to me that strategy is giving up a shitload in ev.

we are chasing out so many hands that we beat (since 2-barreling is seen as so strong).

A line I love witha strong hand or as a bluff vs floaters is bet flop, c-call turn, block-bet the river (sometimes w intent of calling a raise sometimes looking to fold to a raise).

Of the 3 hands above, I think the 10 10 hand is the toughest since villain's line could be a worse PP or a set, that's pretty much it. Not sure what most +ev line is... I think Renton's idea is best. Against worse PP's that call bs on flop, I can lead turn and fold to a raise (giving him credit for the set) and can maybe extract more value from non-set pp hands. I still think this leaves me in a tough spot on the river in a big pot with a vulnerable hand OOP, which is what I try to avoid...
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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