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kmind
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11-30-2009, 01:18 AM
Post subject: 3 Hands
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1. Villain was reggy but a tad on the tightish side over 83 hands. I had 4bet bluffed him a hand or two prior and he folded. What do you think about turn bet, turn bet size, what rivers to continue betting on and what river bet size if we choose to do bet?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($25.80)
BB ($25)
UTG ($26.31)
MP ($10.48)
CO ($19.50)
Hero (Button) ($27.40)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , A
3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60) 5 , 5 , 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1
Turn: ($3.60) 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3
2. Only 26 hands and he was playing 19/12/20 ATS. I feel like I should be either betting half pottish and barreling a lot of turns or just bet 2/3 and c/f turns. Actually, this is board texture makes me want to just fire once (~$4?) and c/f turn.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($25)
UTG ($22.68)
MP ($25.53)
Button ($13.18)
Hero (SB) ($25)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 , 3
1 fold, MP bets $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP calls $2.15
Flop: ($6.25) 10 , A , 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP calls $3.75
Turn: ($13.75) J (2 players)
3. Villain was 48/7 and aggression wise seemed very straight forward over 31 hands. Can we b/f turn or should we just c/f?
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SB ($20.95)
BB ($16.42)
UTG ($26)
MP ($12.50)
CO ($25.68)
Hero (Button) ($27.69)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , J
3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($2.25) 10 , 7 , J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold
Turn: ($5.75) 8 (2 players)
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griffey24
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Hand 1
-Yah I don't mind a barrel here, though I'd prob make a turn bet a bit smaller ($2.50ish - to keep a wider range getting to the river) and fire river again
Hand 2
-meh, this guy is hardly raising pre, why 3bet him here? I think a flat is fine pre unless BB is heavy squeezer. As played, once he calls pre I'm not sure this is the best board for a single barrel since he's calling a ton (Ax, Tx, JJ, QQ, KK, KQ, QJ, KJ etc). That being said, definitely don't continue on this turn, he's not folding any of his flop calling range.
Hand 3
-aren't we IP? Check back...
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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kmind
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Woops yes IP sorry. Meant to say just check or b/f.
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meeloche
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1) I wouldn't barrel turn unless I was gonna fire most rivers.
2) Shitty hand to 3 bet with without a plan to shove over a lot of 4 bets. Which I doubt there is a dynamic for so pick a hand that plays better post flop.
3) I would also check behind
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minSim
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Agree with the others on 1 and 2. I'd also bet 1 way more then check behind.
On hand 3, are the others intending to call a river bet when they check the turn and the river blanks?
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Marshall28
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Hand 1: I'd just check back the flop a lot. But I really dislike your flop bet sizing, 1 into 1.6 is probably the worst sizing you could have made it, either make it like 1.5 or something like .5. Just barrel the turn I guess, but w/ your sizing I'd probably c/c you with Ax assuming I'm doing it w/ the best hand based on the incongruity of your flop/turn sizing. Either way, your opponents probably won't figure that out at 25nl.
Hand 2: Your inclination is correct IMO. Should either be betting small if planning to fire multiple, or just making one big bet if planning to c/f turn. With the amount of equity your hand has on this board I think going for one big one is definitely best.
Hand 3: Yeah, turn is so bad you should just check back and hope he checks the river w/ QJ or AT/KT so you can check and win.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by meeloche
1) I wouldn't barrel turn unless I was gonna fire most rivers.
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Sorry yah, when I say barrel I mean all 3 streets ldo
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
Hand 2: Your inclination is correct IMO. Should either be betting small if planning to fire multiple, or just making one big bet if planning to c/f turn. With the amount of equity your hand has on this board I think going for one big one is definitely best.
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I'm pretty sure the range of villains hands that call a medium sized bet are the same as the one's that call a big bet.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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bspahn
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hey!
my advice from these three hands is that you're playing 25nl, I would really focus on keeping your game simple. Flat hands like 33 if their opening range is reasonably tight, dont bluff multiple streets when AK misses, stuff like that.. i really dont think there's a need at most low stakes to do anything fancy whatsoever, but really focus on the value side of things including developing good thin value bets against various people.
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kmind
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Originally Posted by bspahn
hey!
my advice from these three hands is that you're playing 25nl, I would really focus on keeping your game simple. Flat hands like 33 if their opening range is reasonably tight, dont bluff multiple streets when AK misses, stuff like that.. i really dont think there's a need at most low stakes to do anything fancy whatsoever, but really focus on the value side of things including developing good thin value bets against various people.
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Thanks. I disagree though. I don't believe I am getting fancy just trying to make the best overall play in each decision in every hand. I'm not doing that right now but I am getting better.
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by meeloche
1) I wouldn't barrel turn unless I was gonna fire most rivers.
2) Shitty hand to 3 bet with without a plan to shove over a lot of 4 bets. Which I doubt there is a dynamic for so pick a hand that plays better post flop.
3) I would also check behind
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All this, and some more.
1)More likely to cbet if theres a spade on flop, more often than not i check it though. As played might as well go for the three barrel esp if u can slight-overbet shove river.
2)Fold pre unless BB is loose+passive. As played give up.
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