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Old 05-30-2010, 02:05 AM     Post subject: 3 bet pots #1 (permalink)  
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This one is maybe the most interesting.
Limper is 50/8 drooler, BTN is 30/25/7 % 3 bet over large sample, BB is 22/16/1.1.
Dynamic at the table had been BTN and I had been ISOing/3 betting a lot to get the fish to our right a ton. BB seems like a weak reg, I joined his table HU and he dropped out after 6 hands.
Having a hard time putting BB on a range here. I dont think hes the type to flat a premium hand here. I'm kinda thinking he is leading here with better spades...
I'm pretty sure I made it $6.00 or $6.25 3 bet Pre, I think the HH got goofed fwiw

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($57.70)
UTG ($17.90)
MP ($90.50)
Button ($54.10)
Hero (SB) ($53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 3
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button bets $2, Hero raises $5.75, BB calls $5.50, 1 fold, Button calls $4

Flop: ($18.50) 10, 2, 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $8, 1 fold, Hero ???
Total pot: $18.50

Hand 2
22/17/6.5 %3bet 5%3 bet from SB over very large sample. Not much history at the table. I dunno about calling the 3 bet here, we are IP. Maybe his 3 betting range is not that wide due to hero being UTG? And I dont know much about his post flop play. Maybe safer to just fold Pre. He kinda Cbets a standard size thoughts on multiple streets?

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Hero (UTG) ($74)
MP ($35.90)
CO ($124.45)
Button ($52.25)
SB ($50)
BB ($72.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
Hero bets $2, 3 folds, SB raises $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: ($13) 2, 3, 8 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero ????

Total pot: $13

Hand 3
Vil is 45/25/4.5 over small sample. Though stats looks fishy prob a reg running hot. Hows my barrell? Looking back Turn bet should be bigger imo.
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UTG ($77.50)
MP ($135.95)
CO ($50)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($62)
BB ($60.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 4
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $4.50, 2 folds, MP calls $3

Flop: ($9.75) 7, 8, 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP calls $5.50

Turn: ($20.75) Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $12,

Total pot: $20.75
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 is just so sigh. As played fold

hand 2 fold pre

hand 3 srsly why are u 3bing hands like this if you get completely lost post.

It's totally fine to just stick to a polarized range or actually you can just 3b for value down at the 50's and people will really just play badly against you reguardless.
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 fold everything preflop also fwiw a reg running hot would look more like 45/40 than 45/25 and given that hes' probably an aggro fish you're going to have a hard time playing this hand without knowing anything about his postflop game. you're just setting yourself up to make mistakes.
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 1. this is an interesting hand. i think BB can have AQ/99 when he coldcalls pre, based on his passive stats. because we have over 35% equity vs TPTK and better and a cbet looks super strong, bet/call > c/f flop.

I did a rough EV calc to verify this:

Win 112(35%) lose 47(65%)

(39.2) + (-30.55) + FE = positive


2. i'd call pre and float non A-K high flops, and fold to turn barrels unimproved. this is my default line versus regs who aren't super nits when i don't have any history.

3. i like your betsizing. nh
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 hand 1)
- I think you should 3bet at least to 7
- I would not 3bet this, because with this dynamic BTN will call much and fish probably too and you are OOP with 4 high

hand 2)
- I would fold pre

hand 3)
- exactly what Micro2Macro said
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 Hand 1) I would make it bigger pre-for sure. Maybe your sizing IP, but OOP $7-$8 probably.

As played, I'd imagine if fish is so bad, cold call can be much wider than normal. I'd cbet here, it looks mega strong.

Hand 2) Guy is pretty tight, I don't hate a fold pre. If I call pre it's cause I think he's loose enough to call pre, and I'd peel this flop.

Hand 3) I don't think the Q is a big enough scare card to get many folds out of his flop calling range. People show up with AQ here as well. I'd shut down.
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