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dalecooper
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08-02-2008, 12:55 PM
Post subject: 3-bet light and got called
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Villain is 19/16/2.5, solid player, steals blinds like they were willed to him by a rich uncle. We have about 70 hands together and I have been pretty nitty for that stretch - no big hands with him or anyone else.
I figured he would give up to the 3-bet. Is this a good flop for me to c-bet? Is my c-bet sized well to rep AA/AK?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($48.75)
BB ($59)
UTG ($42.45)
MP ($59.40)
CO ($15)
Button ($69.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with   .
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO folds, Button calls $5.50.
Flop: ($17) :Kd:  :Jd: (2 players)
Hero bets $13...
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freechus9
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I don't think he's continuing on this flop without a set/NFD/AK. Given the range he is calling you with pre, I think this is an autocbet like 100% of the time. However you don't need to make the bet so large. 10 will suffice
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I worry that a $10 bet might get pounced on by him - he's aggro and in position, he might read it as weak and make my life difficult. $13 is basically the bet I'd make if I had AA/AK here, so I went with that.
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I still think 13 is big enough to be spew in these spots. You're going to cbet a good amount of flops in 3bet pots OOP, so why put more money in when we're not good? Also, if you think a 10 dollar bet gets raised, then bet 10 dollars when you have JJ/KK/AA. EZ game
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Basically with balancing your hands in terms of bet sizes, you dont have to "match" your AA line. You could try to match your AA line with your bluff lines.
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Originally Posted by freechus9
I still think 13 is big enough to be spew in these spots. You're going to cbet a good amount of flops in 3bet pots OOP, so why put more money in when we're not good? Also, if you think a 10 dollar bet gets raised, then bet 10 dollars when you have JJ/KK/AA.
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On a sooooted, possible straight draw board? For realsies? I dunno man, that seems like I'm just begging to get socked in the jaw.
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he doesnt have a FD in his range enough to be worried about it as much as you are. His range is primarily AK/KQ/88-AA/SCs (that missed completely) and the occasional AQ/AJ. How many of those are floating, how many are raising, and how many are folding? I think that without history, you're rarely going to get that many floats, so I think we can safely rule out 88-TT/QQ a lot of the time. That leaves JJ/KK/33(almost never)/AK/diamond draws that continue. I think his range is so much wider here that betting larger is just going to be spew.
I could be totally wrong too I'm just saying what works for me.
Also now that I think about it I like a 10.50 dollar bet, but anything more is spew still.
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Plus in a raised pot (non 3bet) we have t worry about flushes/straights peeling a lot more since they have much more implied odds. Here he's basically getting a 0 EV on his FD if he hits and stacks, which he wont ever when we bluff (like now), and which he will when we have KK/AA, but eh thats a cooler IMO. You can't always be afraid of variance..you gotta embrace it.
It's a -EV bet for us (10 dollar) if he has a FD 100% of the itme. But he doesnt, so thats why it's actually +EV. Does that make sense?
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It might...  I understand your point, I'd love to hear from others on this. Might be time to start stoving this one.
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