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Old 01-14-2008, 09:01 AM     Post subject: 25NL - Turn Bluff vs. 2 opps #1 (permalink)  
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My pre-flop raise is loose but the whole table is fairly tight/passive (except faridou who has already folded)
but kemas insta-called pre which concerned me a little. Check my line.....

Starting game 2654529872.

Mika74 is at seat 0 with $27.05.
Werderkufi06 is at seat 1 with $21.80.
faridou is at seat 2 with $40.40.
sbedvek is at seat 4 with $30.25.
kemas is at seat 5 with $12.15.

The dealer is seat 5.

Mika74 posts a blind of $.15.
Werderkufi06 posts a blind of $.25.

(sbedvek is dealt As 10d.)

Pre-flop:
faridou folds.
sbedvek raises $.55.
kemas calls for $.80.
Mika74 folds.
Werderkufi06 calls for $.55.

The flop comes
9s 9c 2c.

Werderkufi06 checks.
sbedvek checks.
kemas checks.

The turn comes 8d.

Werderkufi06 checks.
sbedvek bets $1.55
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know

Why did you raise to 3.2x pre?
 
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know
I'm not sure I understand you

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Why did you raise to 3.2x pre?
I always mix it a little and make it somewhere between 3 & 4
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
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At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know
I'm not sure I understand you
Raise pre, check flop, bet blank turn card, bet most rivers.

You're planning to bluff river right? FWIW I'm calling you with 22 here.

If your opponents are complete 0 level nerks who don't try to read your line it's cool though
 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:11 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
How many 8s are calling the flop tho, apart fr0m 88 or 89, both of which are giving our hand a prison reacharound I'm with u on the flop bet tho. Ash is right about most people at 25NL thinking ur bluffing if u c/flop then bet a blank turn.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
How many 8s are calling the flop tho, apart fr0m 88 or 89, both of which are giving our hand a prison reacharound
Haha nice comment. I don't think I was clear though, I meant if we check the flop too. An 8 won't still be here if we bet but by checking they stay.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:46 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Aha, that much true.
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