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kevster
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01-14-2008, 09:01 AM
Post subject: 25NL - Turn Bluff vs. 2 opps
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Full House
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My pre-flop raise is loose but the whole table is fairly tight/passive (except faridou who has already folded)
but kemas insta-called pre which concerned me a little. Check my line.....
Starting game 2654529872.
Mika74 is at seat 0 with $27.05.
Werderkufi06 is at seat 1 with $21.80.
faridou is at seat 2 with $40.40.
sbedvek is at seat 4 with $30.25.
kemas is at seat 5 with $12.15.
The dealer is seat 5.
Mika74 posts a blind of $.15.
Werderkufi06 posts a blind of $.25.
(sbedvek is dealt As 10d.)
Pre-flop:
faridou folds.
sbedvek raises $.55.
kemas calls for $.80.
Mika74 folds.
Werderkufi06 calls for $.55.
The flop comes
9s 9c 2c.
Werderkufi06 checks.
sbedvek checks.
kemas checks.
The turn comes 8d.
Werderkufi06 checks.
sbedvek bets $1.55
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Ash256
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At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know
Why did you raise to 3.2x pre?
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kevster
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Originally Posted by Ash256
At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know
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I'm not sure I understand you
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Originally Posted by Ash256
Why did you raise to 3.2x pre?
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I always mix it a little and make it somewhere between 3 & 4
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kmind
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Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by kevster
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Originally Posted by Ash256
At low stakes that line (if you 3/4 river as well) is such a known bluffing line that people use it as a value line.. as far as i know
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I'm not sure I understand you
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Raise pre, check flop, bet blank turn card, bet most rivers.
You're planning to bluff river right? FWIW I'm calling you with 22 here.
If your opponents are complete 0 level nerks who don't try to read your line it's cool though
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kettleofish
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Originally Posted by kmind
Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
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How many 8s are calling the flop tho, apart fr0m 88 or 89, both of which are giving our hand a prison reacharound I'm with u on the flop bet tho. Ash is right about most people at 25NL thinking ur bluffing if u c/flop then bet a blank turn.
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kmind
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Originally Posted by kettleofish
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Originally Posted by kmind
Isn't flop a lot better to bet at? If they raise you can give up. If flop and turn one calls you can be pretty sure they have a draw or PP and can usually 3 barrel without a draw completing? Also, turn gives more hands a chance to hit because now they'll continue with a straight draw or an 8.
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How many 8s are calling the flop tho, apart fr0m 88 or 89, both of which are giving our hand a prison reacharound 
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Haha nice comment. I don't think I was clear though, I meant if we check the flop too. An 8 won't still be here if we bet but by checking they stay.
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kettleofish
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Aha, that much true.
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