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vaks
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09-10-2010, 05:04 AM
Post subject: 25nl: troublesome river spot
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 331
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Is this one of those spots where your like EZ FOLD?
Should we know we are beat by the end of the turn?
Villian is 22.5/20/2.6 with a 100% cbet percentage 3% 3bet and 42% fold to 3bet
all over 125 hands
I can't remember my other reads on him but I remember him being pretty aggro and didn't seem to be all that good (but who is at 25nl)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($25.30)
SB ($25.10)
Hero (BB) ($85.72)
UTG ($25.35)
MP ($32.89)
CO ($25.70)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , 10
1 fold, MP bets $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60) 10 , 6 , A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero raises $3.75, MP calls $2.75
Turn: ($9.10) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, MP calls $5.50
River: ($20.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, MP raises $22.89 (All-In), Hero ???
Total pot: $65.88
I get myself into a lot of spots like this and I feel like I should be folding the river here about 100% but I wanted some second opinions? Also if this is a snap fold what decisions are leading you to know this is a fold? I guess I'm asking for some advice on how I should be thinking in these spots so I can figure out how to fold more
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pocketfours
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Preflop seems very marginal against this guy. Turn sizing is terrible. River I would b/f $4. Of course fold to his shove what do you ever beat?
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Mr. Diamond
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Agree with pocketfours - I don't see worse hand, which can call 1/2 PSB on the river, 4$ seems better
- you are aiming only hands like AJ, AQ, AK on scary river
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vaks
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
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So what should I be betting here on the turn? and should I ever consider checking back this turn?
and bet 4$ into the 20$ pot on the river?? would that not be exploitable?
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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Umm firstly, this isn't a 3 bet pot lol.
Agree preflop is marginal at best and would ideally like to just fold pre.
I have no idea why people seem to think AJ-AK is never calling this river to a bigger bet. 25NL aggro regs are also pretty stationy and hate to find the fold button in general. If he's aggro, he prolly 3 bets the flop with flush draws a fairly good amount of the time and we have the best hand a tonne.
Turn sizing is really bad for really obvious reasons. Bet the turn harder to A: get more value from any draws, Ax while these hands are rarely folding the turn and B: to set up a nice river shove that he can call more easily with AJ-AK since this is easily the bulk of his range.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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I would bet the turn harder. The 6 takes away some of the combos he was worried about (666) and if you bet $7.5-8 on turn, and he might not believe that you have a hand like T's full betting so hard.
River I would just jam. Doubt he gets to river with that many FD's, other than Txcc. But you gotta size the turn better, to not leave more than a pot size bet left on the river.
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gabe
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pound the turn! hes not folding any Ax
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