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sil693

05-15-2008, 07:40 PM Post subject: 25NL - Swingy as hell, tilt/bad play??

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Well my shot at 25NL started awesome, turned extremely sour, then I began saving it and it looked promising, now its going awful. Basically, Im just going to post my 4 biggest losers today - tell me how bad I played them.

Just a note, Im sure you'll want to tell me how bad I played, if you could tell me how exactly, and what you'd do differently I'd appreciate it.

Hand 1 - Villains 2nd hand at the table - not played against him before.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG CrazyHairMom ($16.05)
CO mgmg1404 ($29.55)
BTN IBIGBLUFFER ($29.85)
SB AzurRiviera ($25.00)
BB Hero ($28.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BB

CrazyHairMom calls $0.25, 1 fold, IBIGBLUFFER calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, CrazyHairMom folds, IBIGBLUFFER calls $1.25

Flop:

($3.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, IBIGBLUFFER calls $2.75

Turn:

($8.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, IBIGBLUFFER goes all-in $25.6, Hero goes all-in $17.2

River:

($56.75, 2 players)

Final Pot: $56.75

Hand 2 - Villain is 13/8/1.5 over only 20ish hands.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($25.00)
UTG+1 CEZA80 ($6.95)
CO willempie2 ($16.85)
BTN Panerai111 ($25.75)
SB mrhiccup ($25.00)
BB Stoney32 ($50.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG

Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, Panerai111 calls $1, 2 folds

Flop:

($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, Panerai111 raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.5

Turn:

($13.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, Panerai111 bets $9.75, Hero goes all-in $18.5, Panerai111 calls $8.75

River:

($50.35, 2 players)

Hand 3 - Villain is 27/25/5/ over 40 hands - havnt seen him in a 3bet pot before now.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG mømentum ($29.05)
UTG+1 Mad Ceasar ($29.50)
CO Hero ($27.25)
BTN Muckingbiird ($34.05)
SB jnd50 ($24.75)
BB Loïc40 ($31.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO

2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, jnd50 raises to $3.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.45

Flop:

($7.15, 2 players)
jnd50 bets $4.85, Hero goes all-in $23.8, jnd50 goes all-in $16.45

Turn:

($49.75, 2 players)

River:

($49.75, 2 players)

Hand 4 - Villain is 57/14/0.34 over 60-70 hands

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Zoheir ($15.10)
UTG+1 Hero ($41.65)
CO Svenos1 ($7.75)
BTN hio79 ($25.40)
SB ffoed ($19.50)
BB lReindertl ($28.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1

Zoheir calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, hio79 calls $1.25, 2 folds, Zoheir calls $1

Flop:

($4.1, 3 players)
Zoheir checks, Hero checks, hio79 checks

Turn:

($4.1, 3 players)
Zoheir checks, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, Zoheir goes all-in $13.85, Hero calls $10.85

River:

($31.8, 2 players)

Final Pot: $31.80

Thanks a lot guys.

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will641

05-15-2008, 07:51 PM

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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showing results will not get you the kind of responses you want, but ill do my best to not be biased.

1) i play the same. i am always skeptical of unknown villains that have been at the table for <1 orbit and over shove.

2) really dont like this line. shove the flop. your oop, and its a fairly drawy board, and i doubt he folds any draws. as played i would honestly really consider c/f the turn. this guy is pretty damn tight, hes raising the flop, betting the turn hard.

3) is probably okay, but i think in general players at these stakes 3bet a really tight range, and basically the only hands you are ahead of in his range is AK, possibly AQ, but less likely.

4) this is fine.

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tarath

05-16-2008, 06:22 AM

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Join Date: May 2008

Posts: 101

1) Standard well played
2) people don't c/r then fold flops all that often. A b3b here is much better vs most villians unless you have a read that he might c/r flop with air and then donk turn but I don't think that happens at micro stakes
3)I play higher than you so maybe at NL25 people are super nitty but I would 4bet call pre. As played pre postflop is fine
4) This one is the one I would fold. What do you beat here? Hes never crai w a9 or a7 so unless you think he has the balls for a bluff his range here is sets/2pair that whiffed a flop c/r and big draws and better aces. Sure he shows up with AdXd sometimes or maybe QdJd but those have like 30% equity and most of his range crushes you.

bode

05-16-2008, 10:56 AM

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Posts: 4,270

bode is an unknown quantity at this point

1. fine. if you knew villain more and he was pretty aggro i like a crai here too.

2. shove flop or fold the turn. As played you have no FE on the turn, so your c/r isnt going to scare away a set if villain has one.

3. i used to get into trouble in 3bet pots exactly like this, or i guess i should say put myself into horrible spots. By taking this line, esentially no worse hand is calling you. The best line here is a flop call and see what he does on the turn. If you want to jam more money in, then 4betting pre is a better choice than shoveing over his cbet on such a dry flop. By calling preflop, which is perfectly fine here in position, we are taking advantage of position and get to see what villian does on the flop. He bets out here, but AK/AQ is as likely as AA/KK, so calling and seeing a turn is far better than just jamming. There are only 6 scare cards if villain has AK and 3 if he has AQ so were not worried about many turn cards at all.

4. fine against someone with drooler stats like this

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minSim

05-16-2008, 11:42 AM

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Hand 1: Preflop, being OOP postflop, I raise at least 1bb more. For some reason at 25NL that makes a difference.
Because villain is unknown and this is 25NL, consider your flop bet for value. c/f is to consider as well imo.
B/c turn is good.

Hand 2: Either take your flop line and c/f turn, or 3bet flop.
I think I'll choose option 1 more often at 25NL, because players are generally very passive.

Hand 3: Calling flop is better.

Hand 4: I fold because someone with a 0.34 AF doesn't do this often enough with A9 or worse.
Of course you would expect him to bet the turn with 2pair+, but players at this level don't know what they are doing, but they don't raise much with draws, especially on the turn.

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